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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

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Wow, this gives me some second thoughts on purchasing a GC this year. I was going to get a 12 with the 5.7L, obviously i hope this is a very isolated incident
I wouldn't let something like this posted on an Internet forum sway your decision. Research the overall reliability of the 5.7L Hemi, it's the same engine that's been installed in hundreds of thousands of RAM trucks and Jeeps for quite a while.

Also take into account that the OP ONLY came here to report the problem (note his handle). He didn't come here to join a community, learn more about the vehicle or contribute in any significantly positive way, he just wants a voice because he's pissed off. $20 says he's joined a number of other forums to post the same issue.

As for the OP's situation, it sucks, no better way to describe it. But, I don't think you will get a new vehicle but I would demand a new engine. I would have no reservations with a complete replacement engine, it's a relatively easy swap for a qualified mechanic. You also don't have a Lemon Law case unless they try a number of times to fix the problem and can't. OTOH, Chrysler may decide a vehicle replacement is a quicker solution but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

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Wow, this gives me some second thoughts on purchasing a GC this year. I was going to get a 12 with the 5.7L, obviously i hope this is a very isolated incident
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I wouldn't let something like this posted on an Internet forum sway your decision. Research the overall reliability of the 5.7L Hemi, it's the same engine that's been installed in hundreds of thousands of RAM trucks and Jeeps for quite a while.

Also take into account that the OP ONLY came here to report the problem (note his handle). He didn't come here to join a community, learn more about the vehicle or contribute in any significantly positive way, he just wants a voice because he's pissed off. $20 says he's joined a number of other forums to post the same issue.

As for the OP's situation, it sucks, no better way to describe it. But, I don't think you will get a new vehicle but I would demand a new engine. I would have no reservations with a complete replacement engine, it's a relatively easy swap for a qualified mechanic. You also don't have a Lemon Law case unless they try a number of times to fix the problem and can't. OTOH, Chrysler may decide a vehicle replacement is a quicker solution but I wouldn't hold my breath.
+1 on the response.

From what I've read here and on other message boards, the Jeep GC is no stranger to issues, but complete engine failure is not one of them. I'll admit that reading about problems here and elsewhere has had me concerned about the Jeep's reliability, but so far (knock on wood, etc.) I have not seen most of the problems reported and I have an early-build Jeep. I'd actually be more concerned about the engine in my Jeep because the Pentastar V6 is new.

I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on a lifetime service contract but in order to make that worthwhile I need to decide on whether my GC will be a long-term vehicle. I do like to keep vehicles for a while (last two I had over 10 years and well over 150K miles).
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

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I wouldn't let something like this posted on an Internet forum sway your decision. Research the overall reliability of the 5.7L Hemi, it's the same engine that's been installed in hundreds of thousands of RAM trucks and Jeeps for quite a while.

Also take into account that the OP ONLY came here to report the problem (note his handle). He didn't come here to join a community, learn more about the vehicle or contribute in any significantly positive way, he just wants a voice because he's pissed off. $20 says he's joined a number of other forums to post the same issue.

As for the OP's situation, it sucks, no better way to describe it. But, I don't think you will get a new vehicle but I would demand a new engine. I would have no reservations with a complete replacement engine, it's a relatively easy swap for a qualified mechanic. You also don't have a Lemon Law case unless they try a number of times to fix the problem and can't. OTOH, Chrysler may decide a vehicle replacement is a quicker solution but I wouldn't hold my breath.
+2

and maybe negotiate extending the warranty due to the issue and as a good faith restoration.....
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

So the dealership called me after they picked up the Overland by flat bed. Apparently they're saying that it is condensation in the exhaust. I've read on some other forums that new catalytic converters have a tendency to steam when the vehicles are brand new. My issues are ----this looked more like smoke and not steam due to--- Starting the vehicle 10 minutes after an hour long commute, the temperature being 85 degrees and sunny, and the white smoke did not dissipate and lingered in the driveway. Worse comes to worse I'll pick it back up from the dealer and drive back into the city with it. If it happens again, I'll drive it to the dealer to show them, hopefully on all 8 cylinders.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

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I wouldn't let something like this posted on an Internet forum sway your decision. Research the overall reliability of the 5.7L Hemi, it's the same engine that's been installed in hundreds of thousands of RAM trucks and Jeeps for quite a while.

Also take into account that the OP ONLY came here to report the problem (note his handle). He didn't come here to join a community, learn more about the vehicle or contribute in any significantly positive way, he just wants a voice because he's pissed off. $20 says he's joined a number of other forums to post the same issue.

As for the OP's situation, it sucks, no better way to describe it. But, I don't think you will get a new vehicle but I would demand a new engine. I would have no reservations with a complete replacement engine, it's a relatively easy swap for a qualified mechanic. You also don't have a Lemon Law case unless they try a number of times to fix the problem and can't. OTOH, Chrysler may decide a vehicle replacement is a quicker solution but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I agree with everything you wrote: reliable engine, pissed-off, new engine only if blown not new vehicle, no lemon law, and like others have said - wait to see if engine is blown. My new Overland only has 258 miles, so I'll wait and see also.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

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..and demanded (in a nice way, knowing it's not their fault for the defect) a new Jeep GC Overland with the same color and package knowing that I no longer trust the current vehicle even if the engine is replaced on it.
If you needed a new engine and could get a whole new vehicle out of it, then great. But just fyi, I had a '98 Explorer that had continual little issues the first two or so years I owned it. Had to keep getting throttle body cable replaced, weird shudder during acceleration, and several other issues/quirks I don't even remember. Then I had a catostrophic engine failure (that I won't go into) requiring the whole engine to be replaced (luckily at Ford's expense). From that point on, the vehicle was suddenly problem free. Never had any real issues with it after that and I owned it for about 4 more years.

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So the dealership called me after they picked up the Overland by flat bed. Apparently they're saying that it is condensation in the exhaust. I've read on some other forums that new catalytic converters have a tendency to steam when the vehicles are brand new. My issues are ----this looked more like smoke and not steam due to--- Starting the vehicle 10 minutes after an hour long commute, the temperature being 85 degrees and sunny, and the white smoke did not dissipate and lingered in the driveway. Worse comes to worse I'll pick it back up from the dealer and drive back into the city with it. If it happens again, I'll drive it to the dealer to show them, hopefully on all 8 cylinders.
There's a few other threads here about smoke issues with the HEMI engine. I don't know the details, though. You'd have to search them out.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

This happened to my 5.7L two-three times within the first few hundred miles. Each time there was a plume of white smoke, which dissipated within a few seconds after startup. Nothing since <500 miles and I'm now up to 4100 trouble-free miles. I was concerned originally but now it's just a distant memory. I chalked it up to condensation in the exhaust system. My truck has been great and I'd highly recommend one to anyone who will listen. I don't believe this issue should deter anyone from purchasing one.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

I don't think yours is blown. When mine went, I heard the valves clicking...metal on metal = Oh snap.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

This happened on my 08 Lexus IS 350 as well now that I come to think and remember it. My wife noticed it as we were leaving in separate cars one morning. She called me on my cell phone and said when I left out of our subdivision gate, for about a half mile there was alot of smoke coming out, so I pulled over and went to the rear of the car and saw some steam coming out. But it didn't seam like a big deal. So I got back in, jumped on the gas a couple times, motor sounded and revved just fine, so I went on my way, never an issue and I have almost 45k miles on that car now. And I also had about 500+ miles on the car by then. Later when we talked about it again, she said there was so much coming out she couldn't see the car at times and said it seemed like a lot of smoke coming out. She was surprised there was nothing wrong with the car. At the time I just thought she was being dramatic about it.
I'm wondering if some of the seals in the exhaust might allow water to collect until they expand and contract together enough times and the seals get better as the gasket forms and fills the expansion areas better.
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

Is there some practical jokers in the neighborhood... or someone you annoyed by boasting about the new car?

Did you happen to get some bad fuel, old e85 with water in it or perhaps contaminated by diesel fuel? fill up at a station that just had their tanks refilled (ruined an injector doing this once).

If it was a blown engine, I would think it would still be blowing smoke and clattering.

These 5.7s have a tendency to pull oil from the crank case up though the intake, the are oil catchers you can add on that most long term owners that push the hemi use. This recirculating oil has a tendency to clog up sensors and deposit on valves, so its a good simple mod.

If the crankcase is overfilled or park on a steep incline, more oil may get drawn into the intake... and poorly seated rings have more blow by that exacerbates the problem. So many possible explanations.....
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Re: 2011 Overland w/Blown Engine 300 miles

Guys read the first post. He said it himself that he babies the Overland and never goes over 50 mph on the highway. He needs to break in the damn motor.

@2011JeepGCblown These things were not made to be babied, do a search on engine break in. The owners manual has some tips as well.
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