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Old 07-14-2013, 02:22 AM
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

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glad you guys have the problem fixed -- I was out all day with the car - after seeing this post re: over the air update - I just tested my remote start/AC -- still not working for me.

AC does go on - car set temp to 72 (was on 64 when I left the car) - and when I opened the door - it shut down.
According to Willx, that is how it is supposed to work.

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The people with the problems their A/C either does not run at all on remote start or does not return to the last setting when the start button is pushed. Many people think it is broken because it is not running on high during entry but it isn't supposed to.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:31 AM
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

I found this in the owners manual:

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When remote start is activated, the heated steering
wheel, and driver heated seat features will automatically
turn on in cold weather. In warm weather, the driver
vented seat feature will automatically turn on when the
remote start is activated. These features will stay on
through the duration of remote start or until the ignition
switch is turned to the ON/RUN position.
It doesn't mention HVAC. It does seem to indicate the heated/ventilated seats should remain in operation until the start button is pressed.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:22 AM
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According to Willx, that is how it is supposed to work.
That would be correct as long as when he starts the vehicle that the HVAC goes back to the user setting
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

New 2014 JGC summit owner looking for some answers and willing to go the mile for a class action suit if they can't fix this!
I have been to dealer and have a star case. Will get number.
Have been intouch with Uconnect have case number 23652862. But after an extended adult conversation it seems as though they are of no help and they will rely on the escalated star case number through my dealer.

I have had my center uconnect module replaced and the latest 4 gig update (will get the number and post Monday)

The dealer has my vehicle until they can fix the problems. I figure working within the lemon laws of Florida and filing a NHTSA ODI case are the only way to force them to acknowledge they sent out cars with faulty and dangerous programming. I say dangerous because this also affects my collision avoidance and braking systems! Not just my AC.

I have read through this and I can confirm that in 93 degree temps my ac didn't cool my car in remote start with it set in auto. Whether it is on in low I can't confirm. I can confirm when shut off vehicle it is in auto at 74, I start in remote after an hour or so, enter car through the drivers door and it is not cool, the seats seem to be blowing on low but I don't feel like the main ac was on (compared to my other vehicle with this feature). I can also confirm that after starting the vehicle the AC control (and light) are still off. I must push the auto button to get it to turn on, then it works as one would think it should in auto.

Does anyone know for sure that the 2012 service bulletin 24-002-12 flashing the auto temp control module will resolve this issue.?

Issues to date:
--Nav/radio randomly reboots (both while driving and while parked) very distracting and a safety issue to have your car “control–alt-delete” while driving along at 70 in traffic
--Nav has completely lost me and put me in the middle of the harbor (have pic). NO this wasn’t as if I was driving on a shoreline road. The pic shows me in the middle of the bay.
--Randomly the check marks disappear. Randomly they reappear. You can watch this happen.
--AC doesn't come on when vehicle is remotely started.
--Radio settings don't change for occupant one or two-- then again sometimes it changes just cause!
--Xm service sometimes takes 30 seconds or more to load.. Even when sitting in a walmart parking lot. Whiles it's loading the reverse camera doesn't activate.
--The collision warning and adaptive cruise randomly say they are active or inactive.. Sometimes they don't do anything.
-- Gotten two vehicle needs service 911 messages first for update second for phone (have pic of phone message)
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:39 AM
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

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Just tried my ac with the remote start and it works fine now also. It did not work after I loaded 13.19.0 two weeks ago because that was one of the first things I tried. So they must definitely be messing with this over the air somehow. Not sure when they did the fix but it wasn't working about 5 days ago which was the last time I tried it.
Ok put me back on the list of ac not working with remote start. I tried it again today and back to the same thing. So last night I verified it twice that it was working. My issue is that if it is on auto and set at 70 and its 93 outside and probably triple digit on the inside that upon remote start the climate control does nothing stays off. Upon opening the door it kicks on at 70 and starts working. So that does nothing to cool off a hot car, why even remote start it. Last night when I tried it (twice) air started blowing at start up and kept blowing when I opened the door. now back to nothing completely bizarre.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:57 AM
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No offense to anyone reading this but if anyone actually believes Chrysler and that the remote ac function is supposed to do this they need their head examined. Denial is a bad thing.

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Old 07-14-2013, 01:25 PM
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No offense to anyone reading this but if anyone actually believes Chrysler and that the remote ac function is supposed to do this they need their head examined. Denial is a bad thing.

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No I don't think it works for lots of people and for some people it works worse than others.... But maybe I will be really nice and give you all a hint on why it works sometimes and not others. I thought after explaining the start sequence someone would have got it but.... Here we go.

First part of the remote start is to analyze the outside temperature (not the inside). In theory this works great but in real life if your ambient air sensor on your vehicle doesn't work properly..... HINT! (identified problem and Star Case) then how do you think the remote AC will work .

I have been trying to explain in moderately clear terms that there are 2 remote start problems. One the auto does not turn on or back to the last user setting, which I have not had time to post a video showing one that does but trust me they do when they work. The other is the remote start not starting the appropriate cooling etc and this is related to the temperature sensor not working as you are all correct that it should.

I will certainly let you guy know when I see a fix but right now all I know is the fix is coming and yes it is two different fixes for those people who have both symptoms.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:00 PM
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

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New 2014 JGC summit owner looking for some answers and willing to go the mile for a class action suit if they can't fix this!
I have been to dealer and have a star case. Will get number.
Have been intouch with Uconnect have case number 23652862. But after an extended adult conversation it seems as though they are of no help and they will rely on the escalated star case number through my dealer.
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

I am chopping your quote a little so I apologize up front..
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First part of the remote start is to analyze the outside temperature (not the inside). In theory this works great but in real life if your ambient air sensor on your vehicle doesn't work properly..... HINT! (identified problem and Star Case) then how do you think the remote AC will work .
Let me see if I have this correct.. The engineers chose to use outside temp to control the inside temp of my car?

or is what you are saying is that If my car is in auto and set to 70.. It should go to 70 based on the interior temp, because that is what I want the temp to be INSIDE my car. It should chose to either heat or cool my car based on the conditions inside. Now using theory of operation from my past cars/planes it will manipulate a "flapper" (for lack of better term) to set whether it pulls air from the heater core, the evaporator core or ambient air, or combination of any of them based on the external temps. For those of us old guys what I am talking about is what happens when we moved the hot to cold lever back in the day...

if not and it does use external parameters to set internal conditions--rebuttal #2
The theory fails because of thermal loading inside the car due to interior parts heating up by the sun's radiation through the glass without having any method of release by a breeze or something (convection). Using these two basic principles would dictate the state outside the car is significantly different than inside... How many of us have been in upper 80 degree temps only to open the car and it is sweltering due to the sun shining through the windows?


If it truly uses external temp to determine inside operations--how would I expect it to work if I am sitting in San Antonio or Vegas parking lots (or stuck on the spaghetti bowl) in August when the pavement temp is 130+ and all external temps around my car are near 115 or higher? Will it kick into super cold freeze me out on the inside mode to compensate for the external inputs?


To be a bit of an joker.. If they use the exterior temp only to judge my interior conditions can I expect my wipers to come on if I spill a coke because the inside is now wet?
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

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If it truly uses external temp to determine inside operations--how would I expect it to work if I am sitting in San Antonio or Vegas parking lots (or stuck on the spaghetti bowl) in August when the pavement temp is 130+ and all external temps around my car are near 115 or higher? Will it kick into super cold freeze me out on the inside mode to compensate for the external inputs?


To be a bit of an joker.. If they use the exterior temp only to judge my interior conditions can I expect my wipers to come on if I spill a coke because the inside is now wet?
The Conversation was about remote start.... So yes if you sit in your car and remote start it with a properly working external sensor it will go to max cold. Ambient temperatures dictate the HVAC during remote start, I believe the temperature thresholds are in the manual.

Also if you are spilling Coke sitting inside your car while using remote start, this would be almost as unusual as the car turning on the wipers as you suggest yes .

There are many logical reasons the System needs to use outside temperature for this which I go into great detail in other threads. The other thing is I was telling people the more important part and that is the faulty sensor programming that causes this to not work as desired.
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Re: 2014 AC not working with Remote Start

Not trying to self promote but here is the video I said I would post on remote start A/C operation.


Link: http://www.jeepgarage.org/f107/willx-report-a-c-on-remote-start-video-62893.html#post859146
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That would be correct as long as when he starts the vehicle that the HVAC goes back to the user setting
That is how mine is working. Can't remember if it restarts when the driver door closes or I hit start, but the fan does return to whatever it needs to be once I am in the vehicle.
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