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Old 11-11-2013, 06:34 PM
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

I'm pretty sure it is related to the length of the metal coil on the pumps's filler spout. It the coil is too long, the spout can't reach deep enough to open the flap inside the neck. It happened to me the first time I tried to fill my Overland.
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

So you gotta fumble a bit the first time, work the sides, and thrust it in deeper?

Sheesh.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:31 PM
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So you gotta fumble a bit the first time, work the sides, and thrust it in deeper? Sheesh.
That's what she said
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:13 PM
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

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So you gotta fumble a bit the first time, work the sides, and thrust it in deeper?

Sheesh.
I found cleaning the headlights first makes it easier.
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useless waste of money is what I think

also I think your post is spam
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I'm new here but I'm not trying to spam anyone. I'll take down my post because that isn't why I'm here. I was just looking for input.
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

FYI.
There have been a few problems between a worn two piece nozzle and capless fuel spouts on Fords. I have not yet run into a worn nozzle but I have been checking because I don’t want to experience this with my Jeep.
Some fuel dispenser nozzles have a stainless steel tip attached to the aluminum nozzle to improve tip durability. The stainless steel portion is 1.5” to 2” long. See attached photo – note the end of the nozzle.
Apparently the steel is press fit to the aluminum to form a tight joint. Over time and with wear a small gap can appear between the steel and aluminum sections. This gap can become wide enough to catch the “flapper door” of the Ford capless fuel spouts. This can prevent the removal of the nozzle from the spout. I’m told that it is very difficult to get the nozzle out once it is stuck in this way – well beyond the capability of the typical station attendant. I understand that in some cases skilled technicians have required 1-2 hours.
Before I fill I check the nozzle tip and if it is two piece that the joint is tight. So far, no problems.
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FYI.
There have been a few problems between a worn two piece nozzle and capless fuel spouts on Fords. I have not yet run into a worn nozzle but I have been checking because I don’t want to experience this with my Jeep.
Some fuel dispenser nozzles have a stainless steel tip attached to the aluminum nozzle to improve tip durability. The stainless steel portion is 1.5” to 2” long. See attached photo – note the end of the nozzle.
Apparently the steel is press fit to the aluminum to form a tight joint. Over time and with wear a small gap can appear between the steel and aluminum sections. This gap can become wide enough to catch the “flapper door” of the Ford capless fuel spouts. This can prevent the removal of the nozzle from the spout. I’m told that it is very difficult to get the nozzle out once it is stuck in this way – well beyond the capability of the typical station attendant. I understand that in some cases skilled technicians have required 1-2 hours.
Before I fill I check the nozzle tip and if it is two piece that the joint is tight. So far, no problems.
Thanks cdlund, I'll look out for that.
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

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useless waste of money is what I think

also I think your post is spam
Well you'd be wrong on both counts. Dust entry is definitely a problem in extremely dusty conditions, and I'm interested in the product so appreciated the link.

Sorry you got beat up for trying to help Waytoolcrazy

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For a work around ... go to the station you don't have a problem with, particularly if this is a major issue for you.
Sweet, another degenerate solutions competition! Okay, here's my entry: for any problem you ever experience with your Jeep, the workaround is to simply to never drive your vehicle again (or, alternatively, to sell it).

How many points do I win for being so helpful?

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I’m told that it is very difficult to get the nozzle out once it is stuck in this way – well beyond the capability of the typical station attendant. I understand that in some cases skilled technicians have required 1-2 hours.
Before I fill I check the nozzle tip and if it is two piece that the joint is tight. So far, no problems.
I, too, have been unable to readily remove the pump nozzle on my capless diesel after fueling. Twice now. In my case I think it might have to do with the metal spring around the nozzle... I was able to extricate the nozzle by pulling on the spring while wearing nitrile gloves.
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Re: 2014 Capless Fuel Filler Cap

Has anyone tried to changed out there filled neck with Spectra Premium FN864 from Rockauto?From pics it looks to use a screw on cap.
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