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About 30 percent of the Forteras will Road force balance (rim match) and be good... the balance can be improved but the fact is if you have this shimmy there is a 90% chance it is the tires and you need to complain until they fix them...

I see about one bad on out of 10 so every 3rd jeep could have at least one. It is the one of the only things I will come right out and say I think it is a big mistake by Chrysler that they used these tires, they a prone to problems!
Same with the Michelin Lattitude Tour tires. I am still dealing with steering wheel shaking on my Limited. I will be bringing it in for the 3rd time in 2 months this Thursday. This time I requested to have a technician ride in the Jeep with me. What a PITA!
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Re: 2014 GCs that have steering shimmy over 60MPH

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Guys it is definitely tires. I have these on my Durango and I have the same issues (2011) I have tried different tires and rims (same rim style).

I see these problems with Forteras like a bad joke. My new Jeep Grand will arrive at the dealership and immediately have the Goodyear's removed for credit and get some Michelin's put on.

Agree completely, roadforce balance them all day long, a cheap shaking out of round tire will still be a cheap shaking out of round tire.

Out of curiosity what Michelins did you go with the Latitudes? Been considering the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza or the Michellins as I feel I am doing the Jeep an injustice leaving the forteras on much longer. The Jeep deserves better.
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Not only that, but the trend towards larger and larger diameter wheels is making this worse. The larger the wheel (in general) the more sensitive the vehicle will seem to be to variations in balance and road force.

Larger diameter wheels with less cushioning rubber transmit more into the suspension and steering. This has been a long standing trend and I've seen shimmy/shake complaints grow steadily as wheel sizes have gone from 15" to now with factory 20" which will be more sensitive than the 18", and on down.
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Agree completely, roadforce balance them all day long, a cheap shaking out of round tire will still be a cheap shaking out of round tire.

Out of curiosity what Michelins did you go with the Latitudes? Been considering the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza or the Michellins as I feel I am doing the Jeep an injustice leaving the forteras on much longer. The Jeep deserves better.
Michelin Latitude Tour HP. Had them on my ML320 after Dunlop's and I was very pleased with the ride improvement. The ML was very similar in size and weight and was silk at all speeds!
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Same with the Michelin Lattitude Tour tires. I am still dealing with steering wheel shaking on my Limited. I will be bringing it in for the 3rd time in 2 months this Thursday. This time I requested to have a technician ride in the Jeep with me. What a PITA!
Fairly rare with the Michelin for sure but it definitely happens... probably a single bad tire.
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Not only that, but the trend towards larger and larger diameter wheels is making this worse. The larger the wheel (in general) the more sensitive the vehicle will seem to be to variations in balance and road force.

Larger diameter wheels with less cushioning rubber transmit more into the suspension and steering. This has been a long standing trend and I've seen shimmy/shake complaints grow steadily as wheel sizes have gone from 15" to now with factory 20" which will be more sensitive than the 18", and on down.
Why my Porsche friends say stick with the 20s and don't bother going higher. They see lots more problems over 20".
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Not only that, but the trend towards larger and larger diameter wheels is making this worse. The larger the wheel (in general) the more sensitive the vehicle will seem to be to variations in balance and road force.

Larger diameter wheels with less cushioning rubber transmit more into the suspension and steering. This has been a long standing trend and I've seen shimmy/shake complaints grow steadily as wheel sizes have gone from 15" to now with factory 20" which will be more sensitive than the 18", and on down.
Yes agree and that is all the more reason to put a more quality tire on it to minimize this effect.
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Yes agree and that is all the more reason to put a more quality tire on it to minimize this effect.
Silver you see my posts and I rarely critisize Chrysler directly but I agree with you 100% this cheap tire is ruining a lot of great vehicle ride experiences.

It is a stupid decision to have these tires on there... on the other hand Goodyear should take some responsibility for this tire as well. It was crap on my old Envoy Denali in 2006 and it is still junk (the envoy also got Michelin Latitude Tour (just not HPs)
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Silver you see my posts and I rarely critisize Chrysler directly but I agree with you 100% this cheap tire is ruining a lot of great vehicle ride experiences.

It is a stupid decision to have these tires on there... on the other hand Goodyear should take some responsibility for this tire as well. It was crap on my old Envoy Denali in 2006 and it is still junk (the envoy also got Michelin Latitude Tour (just not HPs)
It just seems crazy to me Will, the 2014 JGC is a great SUV but the first thing people are going to remember when they drive it is that the higher trim level ones with 20s shake driving down the road. a shaky ride on a cheap tire on a 50k+ SUV is not the way to draw people away from the luxury brands. The other crazy thing is they are already putting the latitudes on the 18" wheels so they are already doing major volume with Michelin why not put those on the 20s?? It makes no sense, the amount they think they are saving cant be worth the reputation damage can it?
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It just seems crazy to me Will, the 2014 JGC is a great SUV but the first thing people are going to remember when they drive it is that the higher trim level ones with 20s shake driving down the road. a shaky ride on a cheap tire on a 50k+ SUV is not the way to draw people away from the luxury brands. The other crazy thing is they are already putting the latitudes on the 18" wheels so they are already doing major volume with Michelin why not put those on the 20s?? It makes no sense, the amount they think they are saving cant be worth the reputation damage can it?
You would think not... I have had family in General Motors (various parts) and my dad used to say "GM has some of the best engineers in the world, but they also have some of the worst accountants". The saying was that they were always looking at the short term spending..... now look at their market share. There is a lot of bad tires I hope Chrysler does something about it.

That also means NONE of you with this problem should give up. I know these tires get replaced. A proper Road Force machine can often identify the bad tire.
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Agreed with the cheap tires thing that's why I drove it off lot with the coopers...but still shimmy ....I hope they come up with a fix
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Agreed with the cheap tires thing that's why I drove it off lot with the coopers...but still shimmy ....I hope they come up with a fix
Pay a tire shop to Road Force balance them. If my dealership does not fix mine Thursday that's what I plan in doing as a last resort.
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