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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

I drove around locally in the rain over the weekend and the rain sensitive wipers seemed to perform better after an initial bout of unexplained fast wiping. Overall, they seemed to wipe when I expected them except for when starting up the car with a wet windshield. There, the wipers seemed to take a while to recognize that they needed to wipe but once the initial wipe occurred, they worked better.

I did not get a chance to drive at highway speed in the rain which is where I initially experienced the sensitiveness. I suspect there is a vehicle speed component to the wipe frequency calculation and hope that is not the issue.

I'll post updates here next time I drive in the rain.

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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

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You're kidding right? If it was half baked software don't you think people would be jumping up and down (rightly fully so) like with the early/mid transmission software? A single person saying they have what appears to be what a defect, probably sensor or glass related and zero other complaints speaks to the exact opposite of under development (Istowell seems to start to have an issue but seems to admit its not that out of sync). Works as advertised to the point its not even mentioned.
I wouldn't say it doesn't work as advertised, as it is advertised as rain sensitive wipers.
And, they actually work except for very light mist/fog conditions which is probably why there is a "mist" switch.

However, from an ergonomic view, if you have multiple notches for intermittent speed, one would reasonably expect the higher notches to be less intermittent as opposed to having pretty much zero relationship to the actual wiping speed. Poor user interface design is the term that comes immediately to mind. Why bother having all those notches if the user input is so obviously completely ignored?

Not busted, just obviously designed by a user interface dropout.
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I wouldn't say it doesn't work as advertised, as it is advertised as rain sensitive wipers. And, they actually work except for very light mist/fog conditions which is probably why there is a "mist" switch. However, from an ergonomic view, if you have multiple notches for intermittent speed, one would reasonably expect the higher notches to be less intermittent as opposed to having pretty much zero relationship to the actual wiping speed. Poor user interface design is the term that comes immediately to mind. Why bother having all those notches if the user input is so obviously completely ignored? Not busted, just obviously designed by a user interface dropout.
I agree, but having driven several others this is by far the best I've encountered (mostly Lexus and 1 BMW iteration which were all garbage).
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Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity using the wiper stalk? Mine just came on yesterday with some light sprinkling and I though it worked very well. Much better than the 2008 BMW 535i
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

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I wouldn't say it doesn't work as advertised, as it is advertised as rain sensitive wipers.
And, they actually work except for very light mist/fog conditions which is probably why there is a "mist" switch.

However, from an ergonomic view, if you have multiple notches for intermittent speed, one would reasonably expect the higher notches to be less intermittent as opposed to having pretty much zero relationship to the actual wiping speed. Poor user interface design is the term that comes immediately to mind. Why bother having all those notches if the user input is so obviously completely ignored?

Not busted, just obviously designed by a user interface dropout.
When you have the rain sensitive wipers turned on in the evic, the first four notches have nothing to do with wiper speed. They control sensitivity. In the high setting, they even turn on for very light mist.

If you turn the rain sensitive wipers off in the evic, the same notches control interval.

The fifth and sixth detents set wiper speed with no interval.

It's all spelled out in the owner's manual.
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

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I drove around locally in the rain over the weekend and the rain sensitive wipers seemed to perform better after an initial bout of unexplained fast wiping. Overall, they seemed to wipe when I expected them except for when starting up the car with a wet windshield. There, the wipers seemed to take a while to recognize that they needed to wipe but once the initial wipe occurred, they worked better.

I did not get a chance to drive at highway speed in the rain which is where I initially experienced the sensitiveness. I suspect there is a vehicle speed component to the wipe frequency calculation and hope that is not the issue.

I'll post updates here next time I drive in the rain.
To update this. It appears as though the wipers have "broken in" and are behaving close to expected. There are times when it seems overly sensitive (even on the "least sensitive" setting) and then there are other times when I think it should have wiped but hasn't yet... eventually it does.

Regarding the break-in... maybe there was something on the glass (either new, out of the factory or put on by the dealer) that was impacting the initial performance of the RSW.
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Eh...personally I think the RSW implementation on these is not quite as good as the 2003 GC I owned years ago. It's a bit inconsistent at times regardless of the sensitivity setting. Sometimes too sensitive, other times not enough. Oh and the occasional activation of the wipers for no reason. Sitting still. Nothing on the windshield or sensor. Once it does that it keeps doing it for a while, then quits on it's own with nothing changing.

Oh well. It works reasonably well enough and perhaps they'll update it at some point.
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

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Eh...personally I think the RSW implementation on these is not quite as good as the 2003 GC I owned years ago. It's a bit inconsistent at times regardless of the sensitivity setting. Sometimes too sensitive, other times not enough. Oh and the occasional activation of the wipers for no reason. Sitting still. Nothing on the windshield or sensor. Once it does that it keeps doing it for a while, then quits on it's own with nothing changing.

Oh well. It works reasonably well enough and perhaps they'll update it at some point.
This is exactly what my 2015 Overland is doing. Steady light rain, steady speed, it suddenly speeds up for like a dozen wipes. Then a few minutes later it seems to let rain accumulate too long. Then it will be "normal".
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

I have been having issues : (usual setting 4 for sensitivity)

1) light rain the wipers act almost like intermetent and seem to let too much rain accumlate.

2) Driving west in the afternoon on a BRIGHT SUNNY day (no rain at all) the wipers go into full speed mode and either take awhile to stop or don't stop at all and I have to manually turn them off.
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

I don't have RSW, but I do have an issue with the speeds available for delay mode.

The highest speed for delay is often too fast, only pausing for a half a second between wipes. It's almost in on mode at that point. The second notch slower pauses at least 10 seconds between wipes - far too long for a light sprinkle or mist kicked up by other cars off wet roads.

It seems like it needs one more speed to kick the wipers about every 5 seconds.
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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

Seems to be a fisher price implementation. My wipers do all kinds of odd stuff. Not raining and going under trees trigger it for some reason at times.


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Re: 2014 Overland - Super Sensitive Wipers

I really like the RSW's, so much so that I find the normal wipers in my other vehicles annoying. Is there any chance that your windshield has been replace? I read in the manual some where that the dealer needs to recalibrate the wipers or something to that effect if the windshield is replaced.


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