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Old 04-12-2013, 12:25 AM
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Re: 2014 Transmission

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In addition to the lurching, I also noticed if you let off the gas when cruising at in-town speeds, the tranny is often too eager to shift, causing the vehicle to slow down, which in turn requires you to give it some more gas to keep from slowing down too much. I remember this happening with the 2012 and 2013 I tested out too though.

One other thing I noticed, and I'm not sure if it's the tranny or the brakes. But just before coming to a complete stop, as in when going from about 2MPH to 0MPH, I feel "something". I want to say a mini-lurch, but maybe I'm explaining it wrong. Anyway it almost feels like it's in the brakes (even though I haven't noticed any issues with the brakes at any other speeds/times) but I'm also wondering if maybe it's the tranny. Anyone else notice this? It happens fairly often for me.

In my experience so far, and granted this is the first modern car I've ever driven, I've only got about 500 miles on it, I only drove the 5 speed in the 2011-2013 for a very, very brief test drive, and I'm very happy with the vehicle and also still extremely glad that I waited for the 2014, but I must admit I think the tranny is/was probably a little overrated from a knowing-when-and-when-not-to-shift/shift-smoothness perspective, if only just a tad, at least after only 500 miles. But then maybe it's me that's the problem, and not the tranny.
Just brought my jeep home tonight and noticed this as I was stuck in deadlock traffic. When in between 0-10 mph, it seems to get confused on which gear to go into. I was in this traffic for almost an hour so I would watch the gear number go from 3 to 1 to 2 to 1 like it didn't know what to do and would lurch at that time.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:15 AM
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Re: 2014 Transmission

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Just brought my jeep home tonight and noticed this as I was stuck in deadlock traffic. When in between 0-10 mph, it seems to get confused on which gear to go into. I was in this traffic for almost an hour so I would watch the gear number go from 3 to 1 to 2 to 1 like it didn't know what to do and would lurch at that time.
I think that's a good time to switch to Sport mode.



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Re: 2014 Transmission

I don't think that you 8 speed owners will start to experience the smoothness you are expecting until both the engine and tranny break in properly.

With the downshifting I don't think the will go away completely, but it may not happen as often as the TCU learns your patterns of stabbing the throttle.

As for the V6 itself it never gives that feeling of having any grunt on the bottom end.

It produces power once it hits rpm range of 3000-3500 or higher which usually come with unnoticable feeling of acceleration which can get you in trouble sometimes as you close up the gap between you and slower traffic faster than you thought.

The V6 won't really break in until the 5000 to 8000 mile mark and that is when you will see the shifting fully smooth out as the power delivery fully matches the adapted shift points.


Mercedes Benz cars were the first cars I have ever seen an economy and sport shift button back in the 80's and when you put the switch in "Economy" what you got most of the time was numb throttle response along with second gear starts. Cars have come a long way since then.
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Re: 2014 Transmission

When I was trying to deceide between a left-over 2013 or the brand new 2014, I had the opportunity to test drive both (both with the V6), and to me the new 8 sp tranny completly outshined the older 5 sp.

The 8 sp transmission is one of the main reasons I bought a 2014 over the 2013.
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When I was trying to deceide between a left-over 2013 or the brand new 2014, I had the opportunity to test drive both (both with the V6), and to me the new 8 sp tranny completly outshined the older 5 sp.

The 8 sp transmission is one of the main reasons I bought a 2014 over the 2013.
Agree 100%
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One of the big pluses of the 2014 redesign, according to the experts (and many of you) is the new 8-speed transmission. My 2014 v6 is my first Jeep product, so I don't have anything to measure the new transmission against personally. I'm wondering if you gentlemen are feeling the same things I describe below.

I've been less than pleased with the feel of the shifting from a dead stop (stop light, stop sign, etc). It feels very sluggish to me in 1st and 2nd, when taking off. Once it hits 3rd, it starts to smooth out, but the first 25mph is not as smooth as I would prefer. When I turn off EcoMode, the vehicle is more peppy in 1st and 2nd and the awkward shifting is less noticeable. My very amateur, non-expert opinion is that the shift points are made at too low an RPM level. Would you experts chime in on this?

On the flip side, as I slow down, towards a stop, the engine's downshifting can cause the vehicle to "lurch" forward, which is somewhat uncomfortable. From my perspective, I would prefer the process to feel smoother.

The feeling of the transmission in lower gears is my only complaint. I'll get used to it, I have no doubt, but it's something that I'm not 100% satisfied with.
I have been experiencing the exact same thing. It was funny, the first time I test drove one I noticed this and then the dealer did a search for the exact vehicle that I wanted. They had to transport it in but before I signed any papers I wanted to drive another so I could make sure I was ok with the transmission. That second one I drove didn't seem to have the same problems, but when my actual vehicle was transported and got here I noticed the funky shifting right away. I don't know if I was driving them differently or what. I have over 1000 miles on my 2014 Laredo already and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Slow starts seem to be ok but as soon as I try to get any power behind it the lurching/jerking starts especially at lower gears. Downshifting is also uncomfortable to me, thought at first it was the way I was breaking but I don't think so anymore. Will it really take 5000 miles to break these in and why did the second test drive seem ok to me? Are y'all reporting this to your dealers and/or bringing your vehicles in to the service department?
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I'm sure programming updates will follow. You can have the best transmission in the world (which this may be) but if the programming isn't right that doesn't mean a thing. Chrysler has somewhat of a history in my opinion of releasing these things and then fixing it later with software updates.
Hope you're right. This downshift "thump" when coming to a stop was one of my first "uh oh" moments with my 2014. Like you, I figured eventually there will be a software update since this transmission is so new. I don't notice all that much of a difference between the Eco and regular modes. In my old Saab wagon, you had to click Sport mode to recalibrate the throttle and shift points and there was a BIG difference.
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When I was trying to deceide between a left-over 2013 or the brand new 2014, I had the opportunity to test drive both (both with the V6), and to me the new 8 sp tranny completly outshined the older 5 sp.

The 8 sp transmission is one of the main reasons I bought a 2014 over the 2013.
This.

And in conjunction, the promise of greater mpg, which hasn't happened in my case.
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Re: 2014 Transmission

Searched for an answer but didn't find it -- you said you're watching the gear numbers. Where do you see that? Sorry, WK2 n00b here.

And does the shifter annoy anyone else? Maybe there's a trick to it, or maybe just practice, but when backing up and moving forward, I keep going into park or neutral at various points. Grrrr.
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Thank god! I thought I was going crazy! Having the same problem with my 14 overland
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i just picked up a '14 Limited V6. I was thinking of calling the service center, but it seems it's just the nature of the truck.

When accelerating from a stop, I would give it sudden gas and let off...and THUD, also when downshifting at low speeds, I hear a THUD. The best way I can describe it is if you were driving a manual transmission, it's similar to what happens if you let the clutch up too quickly when down shifting. I'm coming from a 6spd '10 Audi S4, so it's a huge transition, but I'd like to confirm this is 'normal', so I don't waste time with the service center.
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Searched for an answer but didn't find it -- you said you're watching the gear numbers. Where do you see that? Sorry, WK2 n00b here.

And does the shifter annoy anyone else? Maybe there's a trick to it, or maybe just practice, but when backing up and moving forward, I keep going into park or neutral at various points. Grrrr.
I have my display set to only show the mode I'm in instead of all at once.

When in D or S the actual gears appear, faintly, just to the right of the letter.



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