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Old 08-15-2013, 09:54 PM
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Yes. We've already covered that it is built on a car frame. When I offered it up, it was as a option for a guy who has had two jeeps that have shit the bed on him. You can have the greatest SUV platform with the ability to take you anywhere; but if it won't run...it won't take you anywhere...
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:24 PM
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Yes. We've already covered that it is built on a car frame. When I offered it up, it was as a option for a guy who has had two jeeps that have shit the bed on him. You can have the greatest SUV platform with the ability to take you anywhere; but if it won't run...it won't take you anywhere...
I believe the 2nd one is doing just fine and he is keeping it.

and I would take his first jeep with nall the problems over the best explorer on the planet....
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and I would take his first jeep with nall the problems over the best explorer on the planet....
Funny, if the new Explorer had a real 4WD option with low range and a differential option, I'd probably be waiting on one of those to be delivered instead of a Jeep. I wouldn't even bat an eye. (Well, maybe, I really don't need or want a 3rd row seat, frankly.) I'm actually disappointed that they have nothing for me. But I basically went around looking for a 4WD vehicle, and ended up at Jeep.

That would have made it my 3rd Explorer, I'm giving up my 2nd for the Jeep. I have moments of melancholy and excitement over the prospect.

That will be over 360K miles on two Explorers, the first was '93 2WD, and this one a '98 4WD. I've had it 13 years. There's nothing wrong with it that can't be readily fixed, but it's time for a newer vehicle, with more safety options, etc. It's worst problem is the paint on the hood went south 5 years ago, and I simply never could justify the $$$ to get it repainted.

Along with the 2 Explorers, my wife had an F-150 (bullet proof vehicle), and now she has a 6 year old Fusion, which is basically flawless save I think the compass went on the blink. She loves that car.

I am not a "Ford Man", but the products have been solid for me over 20 years, and, yea, I think the company seems to have been well run.

So, like every car maker, they all have their haters and fans. Hopefully I'll become a fan of this Jeep, whenever it gets here, so that it will be my first consideration when I trade it in, in 10 years or so.
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:22 PM
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and I would take his first jeep with nall the problems over the best explorer on the planet....
Spoken like someone who has not had these problems. My issues have been 1/10th of his and I get it. Its incredibly frustrating to have all of these failures on a vehicle in this day and age, and when your family depends on the vehicle for their safe transport to and fro, and you have to be confident in their ability to depend on it...other vehicles start looking pretty darn good...even if they may not be as "capable" as the Jeep.

That video of his GC freaking out on the side of the road...and the irony of how its actually his replacement because they bought back his first one is a friggen joke. Thats just pathetic that he's had these problems, you don't see images like that on other forums. I have been participating in auto forums for 15 years or so...across multiple brands. I have NEVER seen the level of serious issues discussed, buybacks, lemon law, etc that I have seen here. Never. These things are like Jaguars in the 80s.

I get where you are coming from, before I started having problems I said the same thing. When the repairs start piling up though your outlook changes real quick, trust me.

NO vehicle is nice enough or special enough to put up with that BS. You gotta remember a vehicles job 1 is safe, reliable transportation for you and your family. If you can't count on it for that its absolutely worthless.
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Hahaha about as long as a 14 GC that slams into into 4 of its 8 gears I suppose....no, in all actuality I have no idea. It was far too snowy where I live, I missed 4 days of work because I was snowed in last year so I decided to get a 4wd. But I do believe ford opened at least one new factory dedicated to building the ecoboost engines, and if history is any barometer of a company, ford would seem to be the far more soluble brand... Hence they did not need a bail out and their stock, which went from $2 when Chrysler declared bankruptcy and was bought out by fiat has rocketed to over $16 today (was over $17 last week)..also, ford has sold 1,545,730 vehicles in 2013, in comparison to Jeep's 292,111. Even withstanding the fact that ford sells a wider range of vehicles not just SUVs, it would be fairly safe to say there is more consumer confidence in ford. Now...I left ford for a jeep and certainly like my jeep more (tranny issues and all...), I'm just making the point that ford is still a solid brand, especially for those looking for an SUV that will be more road oriented. If only jeep had an Alan Mulally, it would be an unstoppable brand.
It really isn't a fair comparison to compare the sales of Ford overall to just Jeep. Compare the sales of Ford overall to Chrysler overall and that would be a fair number and Ford naturally is going to have a larger number Its a bigger company with more vehicles and more customer base. You could compare the number of Grand Cherokee's sold to the Explorer and that would be fair. I don't know what any of this had to do with why Ford put a little 2L 4 in a large vehicle like that and how that engine will hold up over time and why Ford doesn't offer a v-8 in it. Also at that time Ford was also in rough shape and they did take government money just out of a different pocket.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:27 AM
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I'll attest to it. Had a 2013 Ecoboost for about. 25k milea until I moved up north (another downfall: horrible in deep snow. Not bad in light snow)... The I-4 2L Constantly got around 26.5-28mpg on the highway doing 65. On a 55mph, I got 30mpg over a 25mi stretch to the airport. At about a 30% city, 30% county and 60% highway I was averaging 23-26mpg.
So, did the vehicle meet or not meet your expectations for mileage and how much so?
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:10 AM
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It really isn't a fair comparison to compare the sales of Ford overall to just Jeep. Compare the sales of Ford overall to Chrysler overall and that would be a fair number and Ford naturally is going to have a larger number Its a bigger company with more vehicles and more customer base. You could compare the number of Grand Cherokee's sold to the Explorer and that would be fair. I don't know what any of this had to do with why Ford put a little 2L 4 in a large vehicle like that and how that engine will hold up over time and why Ford doesn't offer a v-8 in it. Also at that time Ford was also in rough shape and they did take government money just out of a different pocket.
Well, if you add Jeep, Chrysler, Fiat, Dodge and Ram, they come out to about 1.13m sales. And the reason they did not offer it in a V-8, which they've almost endlessly talked about was that the V-8's low gas mileage was one of the main factors that sank the American auto industry and thus, they realized the majority (not all) of drivers do not do a whole lot of off-roading, and were far more interested in gas mileage.

So a good deal less then Ford, but my real question is, just whose money did Ford take in the auto bail out?
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So, did the vehicle meet or not meet your expectations for mileage and how much so?
It did meet my expectations. I was getting a combined average of 26mpg with city and highway. I get a combined average of about 22.5 now with eco off. About 23 with it on. Not a huge difference, but when you factor that the Explorer is about 800 or so lbs heavier and has a third row-it is an option to look at if you are unhappy with 2 unreliable WK2's and you aren't headed offroad.
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Well, if you add Jeep, Chrysler, Fiat, Dodge and Ram, they come out to about 1.12m sales.

So a good deal less then Ford, but my real question is, just whose money did Ford take in the auto bail out?
Ford took 6 billion dollars in energy dept loans.
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Ford took 6 billion dollars in energy dept loans.
Those two things aren't even in the same hemisphere. The Ford loan was in 2009, after the bail out had passed and it was not to assist ford in poor business decisions that lead to a deficit, the loan was for them to research more fuel efficient engines and plug-in technology. Hence, to make my point-Ford was the only one to weather the auto crash and was given money to further the technology that had gotten them through it...

But I feel like we've jacked this feed...
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Those two things aren't even in the same hemisphere. The Ford loan was in 2009, after the bail out had passed and it was not to assist ford in poor business decisions that lead to a deficit, the loan was for them to research more fuel efficient engines and plug-in technology. Hence, to make my point-Ford was the only one to weather the auto crash and was given money to further the technology that had gotten them through it...

But I feel like we've jacked this feed...
Lol... Ford got through by luck. They had set up large lines of credit before the credit markets froze up and they got through by a thread. Then they made a point of how they didn't need taxpayer money, but in the end what did they do? They took taxpayer money. If they have so much confidence in ecoboost why don't they match the warranty? 60k miles on powertrain is nothing.
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