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Old 01-17-2015, 04:39 PM
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new 2015 jeep grand cherokee altitude just picked up november 1, after a week i noticed my rear liftgate was not aligned properly on the right passanger side, it pisses me off, then a week or so ago i noticed my driver door wasnt sitting flush with the rest of the panls, i called dealer and they said when i bring it in for 1st service theyll fix it, it just bothers me on a brand new truck that its not lined properly, im anal and def have OCD and 99 out of 100 people would never notice but its pisses me off, leaves bad taste in my mouth about jeep to be honest, i look on as many jeeps wk2 now as i can to check panels, a buddy of mine with a altitudes gas cap is not lined properly, the gaps are way off... any one have this issue with there jeep? thanks
Same on mine and I don't like it a bit, I like the Grand Cherokee but ready for a different brand, never seen body gaps as wide as on the Grand Cherokee, nothing lines up if you look closely, most people don't...

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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

My 2012 WK2 has misaligned panels as well. When I pointed them out to the dealer they implied that this was normal and just the way the cars are. My last WK2 was a lemon, my current WK2 has major issues and I have a Wrangler with serious water leaks that they can't resolve. I know I'm picky and probably more demanding than the average guy, but really - my self trained tile guys tiled my whole house with consistent spacing using cheap plastic spacers - I think Jeep should be able to install five doors.
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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

i dont know if its same owner, sorry
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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

that sucks, my brother has at 2015 limited and the liftgate is perfect, this shit pisses me off, i know i def have some OCD going on but come on now, do some quality contol
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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

Hi All, My local dealer told me that my Overland arrived this morning (8 months wait). I'm not the kind of guy that notices things (much to my wife's chagrin - especially when she buys new clothes) but I noticed some panels not aligning. I can understand all of your disappointment as JGC Overland costs over $70K here in OZ. That's a lot of money - the most I have ever spent on a car. I plan to have a panel shop go over the car with a "fine tooth comb" and get his opinion in what is acceptable or not. Perhaps that's something we should all consider as Panel Shops know what to look for. It'll cost me a case of beer (and our beer is better btw ) and I think it'll be well worth it.
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Hi All, My local dealer told me that my Overland arrived this morning (8 months wait). I'm not the kind of guy that notices things (much to my wife's chagrin - especially when she buys new clothes) but I noticed some panels not aligning. I can understand all of your disappointment as JGC Overland costs over $70K here in OZ. That's a lot of money - the most I have ever spent on a car. I plan to have a panel shop go over the car with a "fine tooth comb" and get his opinion in what is acceptable or not. Perhaps that's something we should all consider as Panel Shops know what to look for. It'll cost me a case of beer (and our beer is better btw ) and I think it'll be well worth it.
You bought the wrong car if you are going to that much trouble to check its built well. Sure 70k is alot, but you also get alot of car for that, which is probably why you bought it. For what it is, it's great value.
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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

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that sucks, my brother has at 2015 limited and the liftgate is perfect, this shit pisses me off, i know i def have some OCD going on but come on now, do some quality contol
I am kind of obsessive, so i was washing my 2015 Altitude and noticed a misalignment between the bumper in rear quarter panel. Shouldn't be there but I'm not gonna lose my mind, just point it out at the first service and tell them to fix it.
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I am kind of obsessive, so i was washing my 2015 Altitude and noticed a misalignment between the bumper in rear quarter panel. Shouldn't be there but I'm not gonna lose my mind, just point it out at the first service and tell them to fix it.
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I think it would be safe to say that every 14+ WK2 came with at least one misaligned body panel. Quality really suffers when demand is high. Especially when the manufacturer cares more about sales numbers than quality.

If Jeep were to spend more on quality control then they couldn't produce as much without adding more people and production lines which would drive the cost up.

If you want fit and finish it's really hard to beat the Europeans.

I still love my Jeep but only because I've decided to look past its small imperfections.
Sorry, but I don't buy that.

My $12,000 Saturn had better quality control than that. Sure, the dash looked like it was a snap-together kit and it had electric power steering, but the paint was well done and everything lined up.

Surely, you can't be insinuating a $40k+ vehicle shouldn't be better?

Maybe if the humans can't do their jobs well enough perhaps they SHOULD be replaced with robots.

If I had as many defects in one of my projects at work as the one vehicle I purchased, I'd be fired. This is in a fast paced live TV environment where I don't have time to nitpick stuff, but everyone else sure does if I screw up.

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"Take pride in your work and do your job right or let someone else have it."

I couldn't agree more! I try and do almost everything myself, because I have been disappointed over and over by lack of work ethic and attention to detail. A job worth doing is worth doing right. By the way the first Jeep I almost bought had a misaligned lift gate and drips in the paint. Not acceptable regardless of the cost of a new vehicle.
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Sorry, but I don't buy that.

My $12,000 Saturn had better quality control than that. Sure, the dash looked like it was a snap-together kit and it had electric power steering, but the paint was well done and everything lined up.

Surely, you can't be insinuating a $40k+ vehicle shouldn't be better?

Maybe if the humans can't do their jobs well enough perhaps they SHOULD be replaced with robots.

If I had as many defects in one of my projects at work as the one vehicle I purchased, I'd be fired. This is in a fast paced live TV environment where I don't have time to nitpick stuff, but everyone else sure does if I screw up.

Take pride in your work and do your job right or let someone else have it.

Hmm. You DO realize that the body shop at JNAP is pretty much all robotic, right? There aren't any humans putting the body panels on or aligning them...just machines. This includes the liftgate.

The main issue is that JNAP is running full out to meet demand so unfortunately machine maintenance is taking a hit at times. Sensors get slightly out of calibration and even a millimeter deviation shows up as a misalignment that, while it doesn't cause production issues, can be visible.

And hey...even if it was strictly a human assembly thing...would you still have the same "pride" in your work for $12-15/hr? I'll bet you're paid significantly more than that so that you have more "pride" and incentive.

Anyway, let's not argue about that stuff -- perspectives are funny things. One thing to note is that your $12,000 Saturn didn't have the production numbers or demand of the JGC -- far from it. The assembly line making it only had to deal with numbers of about 1/4 or less of what JNAP is doing with the GC. If it had the same numbers it likely would have seen some of the same issues given its niche position with GM. Funny thing is, with any production system as you get more popular and more are demanded, quality is often the first thing to suffer in order to meet demand. As quality suffers, this affects demand. Eventually it reaches an equilibrium of sorts.

It'd be nice if quality stayed consistent with demand, but the only way to do that is to increase production capacity (a large capital expense) or limit production. Both cause end-consumer prices to rise which affects market penetration rates. You want the ultimate in quality? Buy a low-to-mid volume product that makes up the margins through higher prices. In other words, a vehicle that is out of most peoples' price range. Or, a high-volume vehicle that is fully matured and the building company has had the resources, and time to put the capital investment into increasing production capacity so the plant isn't running full bore at all times. FCA is in the position of having created some very popular vehicles before building up the capital and market position to properly meet the demand without sacrificing some of the nitpicky quality levels (and unfortunately some of the not so nitpicky ones). If the popularity remains it'll get there...it's just not there yet.
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Re: body panels Not lined up!!!

yah im the same way, it really bothers me and stands out like a sore thumb to me, my tailgate and front driver door are way off, it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth, going in soon for 1st oil change etc and im taking the car back until the panels are fixed correctly
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