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Old 01-05-2016, 11:56 PM
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Question Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

I just purchased a used 2012 GC Overland.

I notice that when I push the brake pedal, it does down past the level of the gas pedal. This means that I have to make sure my foot is far enough to the left so that I can be sure I won't be pushing both the gas and the brake at the same time, which results in my foot having to be farther to the left than is comfortable. In my previous vehicle (a Ford Explorer), the brake pedal doesn't go down far enough for my foot to hit the gas, even if my foot is overlapping the edge of the brake pedal and over the gas pedal.

When my foot is off the brake, the brake pedal is adequately back from the gas, but it seems that the pedal travels far enough during brake application to go past the gas pedal idle position.

Is this normal for the Grand Cherokee, or is it possible that something is wrong? It seems possible that brake lines that need bleeding could cause a situation like this, but I don't want to waste my time/money bleeding the brakes if this is just the way the Grand Cherokee was designed.

Any comments welcome.

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P.S. This is my first post on this forum, but I have learned a LOT so far by reading existing posts. I became aware of this site since it seemed like most of my Google searches related to the GC directed me here.

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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

I also have had the same issue with my 2012. I have got in the habit of keeping my foot father to the left to avoid this.

Now that you mention this, I also wonder if maybe this is more than poor design,, that there might be an issue with the brake pedal that can be corrected.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

Mine does this too. I go to press the brakes in my wife's Baby Cherokee and I almost put us though the windshield.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

I haven't really noticed the issue on my 15 Limited.

Is it possible there is air in the system? Perhaps a fluid flush is necessary.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

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I haven't really noticed the issue on my 15 Limited.

Is it possible there is air in the system? Perhaps a fluid flush is necessary.
This sure wouldn't hurt. I will give it a try. I also noticed that the accelerator pedal mount on my car looks like the pedal mounting may have slipped downward. The mounting holes are elongated I assume this is to adjust the position of the pedal. I haven't had time to mess with mine, I will updated this post if it improves the issue.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

Well, if y'all left foot braked…. ��

Seriously, I think something is wrong with the brake system on y'all's Jeeps. Needs attention IMO.

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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

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Well, if y'all left foot brakedů. ��


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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far?

My pedal slipped or was not set right when built. . I loosened the three mounting screws and pushed the pedal to the right. I now have much more clearance . You will notice very little movement at the mount point, but the pedel moves far enough away from the brake pedal that I would have to try to press both at once. . Some of you may want to give this a try. Very simple to do. One other thing I noticed; is my foot now rests on the accelerator pedel in a more natural position, which I find much more comfortable.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far? AIR in lines

After adjusting the pedal I went ahead and hooked up my brake bleeder. Most definitely air in the lines, as suggested by some other posters. I just took the car out and the brakes are going to take a bit of time to get used to them. I was very surprised at the dramatic difference. Anybody with this issue may want to bleed the brakes, the pedal does not go below the accelerator any longer.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far? AIR in lines

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After adjusting the pedal I went ahead and hooked up my brake bleeder. Most definitely air in the lines, as suggested by some other posters. I just took the car out and the brakes are going to take a bit of time to get used to them. I was very surprised at the dramatic difference. Anybody with this issue may want to bleed the brakes, the pedal does not go below the accelerator any longer.
Wow, very interesting news. I will definitely try bleeding the brakes.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far? AIR in lines

I was very surprised that it had air in the lines. It stopped very well before I bleed them. I have a friend that drives it some and he never mentioned anything about the brakes. I guess it was so gradual, I never noticed. It is night and day difference after I bleed them.
I did use a pressure bleeder and did a full flush of the system.

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Wow, very interesting news. I will definitely try bleeding the brakes.
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Re: Brake Pedal Goes In Too Far? AIR in lines

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I was very surprised that it had air in the lines. It stopped very well before I bleed them. I have a friend that drives it some and he never mentioned anything about the brakes. I guess it was so gradual, I never noticed. It is night and day difference after I bleed them.
I did use a pressure bleeder and did a full flush of the system.
I bled my brakes today using the standard "tube into bottom of bottle" method. In the end, I could not detect ANY difference in the braking or pedal travel. Since I did this myself, I can't say whether or not bubbles came out during the procedure, but I continued on each brake until the fluid went from the original dark color to the light color of the new fluid. I didn't ever go too low in the main reservoir, nor do I believe that air was able to go back in through the bleed line.

I wonder if there is any other place that air might be hiding? I saw something on YouTube saying that if you actually ran the reservoir dry, air could get into a place that was more difficult to remove. As I said in the first post, this vehicle is "new to me" as of a few weeks ago, so I don't know the history of anything prior to that.

Any ideas? Are there any special things that must be done when bleeding a WK2?

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