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Old 10-03-2014, 12:06 PM
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

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Do you know if it is ONLY held on by double-sided tape? Or are there some kind of clips that hold it on? If I can pull it off myself and stick it back on with double-sided tape, I'd definitely do it myself. I have some kick ass 3M foam tape that is made for holding on side molding and I'm sure it would be more than up to the task of holding that panel on tight.
Same thing with the black molding. Its covered under warranty so id take it in to the dealer and have them replace it. Did mine and make sure the top piece sits flush like the opposite side.

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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

may want to consider adding a dash mat cover, rather that using sharpie to black out the treads on your dash if reflection is causing you a problem, secondary benefit is it protects your dash from sun damage/fading etc, and they can be had in various materials and colors
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

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may want to consider adding a dash mat cover, rather that using sharpie to black out the treads on your dash if reflection is causing you a problem, secondary benefit is it protects your dash from sun damage/fading etc, and they can be had in various materials and colors

Okay...but--I like the look of the leather dash on the Overland. That was actually one of the selling points for me. Plus, a real leather dash should outlast the vehicle itself. I should have no worries about the dash cracking or anything with real leather on it. I've yet to see any kind of dash cover that doesn't look cheap/crappy, so there's no way I'm going that route. I just think it was a piss poor idea to do white thread when it reflects on the inside of the windshield.
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

Okay, here are more complaints after hand washing my Grand Cherokee this weekend and really taking a good look at it up close. The fit and finish of this vehicle is horrible. I've owned many different cars over the years from a variety of American, Japanese, and German manufacturers. Never have I owned a car that was so poorly put together. It's inexcusable for any car to be put together so poorly.

*Driver's door sticks out ~2mm more than the leading edge of the rear door. It's noticeable enough that I sometimes wonder if I closed the door all the way. Poor assembly job by the good ol' UAW.

* Rear door on driver's side sits a good 2mm or 3mm lower than it should, which of course means all the chrome/aluminum trim is misaligned. Since my Jeep is black, the misaligned chrome trim really stands out and is noticeable. The other side of the Jeep is aligned perfectly.

* The rear bumper cover, near the very bottom and directly behind the rear wheels is very poorly aligned on both sides. Another crap job putting on the rear bumper cover by the UAW. Do these people have no pride in their workmanship? Seriously?

*As mentioned earlier, the black vertical panel between the driver's door and the back door is loose and sticks out a bit. If I push it back with my hand, it sticks for a second and then pops back out, which makes it seem like the double stick taping is doing a lousy job of holding on

Okay, that's enough ranting about the terrible fit/finish for now. Like I said, this would be disappointing for ANY new car, much less a nearly $50K Jeep.

Oh, one other disappointment---what's up with the turn signal stalk? It feels cheap as it "crunches" when I activate the turn signals. I noticed the same thing with other Grand Cherokees I test drove, so it's not just my particular vehicle. My 11-year-old 4Runner's turn signal stalk felt so much more solid and refined, not like a cheap piece of crap that snaps. Sure, this is a little complaint and I'm sure that the turn signal stalk will work for many, many years without issue, but the point is that a new vehicle shouldn't have a turn signal stalk that snaps like a 1975 Buick.

At the end of the day, I still really like the Jeep and I have no real regrets. I'm just venting my disappointment with all these little things that shouldn't happen on a new car in this day and age.
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Old 10-07-2014, 01:59 PM
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

Just wait till you have had it a year and its been in the shop many times...

I think I have to bring mine back AGAIN for the trans.. its back to shifting like crap when cold. not just a little.. its horrible. It shifts early, or hard, or doesnt shift, or dbl shifts (in 3rd @ 12 mph) - <2 years to go and counting... cant wait to dump it
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

You do realize that Jeep will make any of those door adjustments for you under warranty? Just take it to any dealer...should be a simple adjustment to get the door lined up to your required satisfaction.
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

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You do realize that Jeep will make any of those door adjustments for you under warranty? Just take it to any dealer...should be a simple adjustment to get the door lined up to your required satisfaction.
Yeah, I realize that....but in all honesty, I'm a bit leery letting the dealership mechanics start messing around with aligning doors and such. Most of those guys don't have a clue with that kind of stuff. I should know, I used to be one of them (a dealership mechanic, that is) and the stuff I saw would blow your mind. There are very few professionals working at dealerships these days. If you're lucky enough to find one, that's great....but don't count on it.
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Yeah, I realize that....but in all honesty, I'm a bit leery letting the dealership mechanics start messing around with aligning doors and such. Most of those guys don't have a clue with that kind of stuff. I should know, I used to be one of them (a dealership mechanic, that is) and the stuff I saw would blow your mind. There are very few professionals working at dealerships these days. If you're lucky enough to find one, that's great....but don't count on it.
Most likely the body shop will handle it...my local dealers won't let the mechanics do body adjustments. They use their dealer body shop.
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

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Okay, here are more complaints after hand washing my Grand Cherokee this weekend and really taking a good look at it up close. The fit and finish of this vehicle is horrible.

My guess is that if you didn't notice it until you really took a close up look, horrible might be an exaggeration.

But, if it bothers you let the dealer's body shop deal with it for you.


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My guess is that if you didn't notice it until you really took a close up look, horrible might be an exaggeration.

But, if it bothers you let the dealer's body shop deal with it for you.


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I was looking too closely for door dings and scratches when I took delivery. I was also looking at the paint (since it's a black vehicle) for swirl marks in the paint. Surprisingly, there were none that I could find.

But you are right, my complaints are little things that aren't even noticeable from 10 feet away....but it still sucks that those bozos put together a car with misaligned body panels/doors/ bumper covers, etc...
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Most likely the body shop will handle it...my local dealers won't let the mechanics do body adjustments. They use their dealer body shop.
You are probably right. I have a good friend who owns a body shop. I was going to stop by his shop and get his opinion. Maybe I'll let him to the adjustments because I trust him 100% and know his ability.
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Re: Brand new 2015 Overland--already aggravated!!

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Okay, here are more complaints after hand washing my Grand Cherokee this weekend and really taking a good look at it up close. The fit and finish of this vehicle is horrible. I've owned many different cars over the years from a variety of American, Japanese, and German manufacturers. Never have I owned a car that was so poorly put together. It's inexcusable for any car to be put together so poorly.

*Driver's door sticks out ~2mm more than the leading edge of the rear door. It's noticeable enough that I sometimes wonder if I closed the door all the way. Poor assembly job by the good ol' UAW.

* Rear door on driver's side sits a good 2mm or 3mm lower than it should, which of course means all the chrome/aluminum trim is misaligned. Since my Jeep is black, the misaligned chrome trim really stands out and is noticeable. The other side of the Jeep is aligned perfectly.

* The rear bumper cover, near the very bottom and directly behind the rear wheels is very poorly aligned on both sides. Another crap job putting on the rear bumper cover by the UAW. Do these people have no pride in their workmanship? Seriously?

*As mentioned earlier, the black vertical panel between the driver's door and the back door is loose and sticks out a bit. If I push it back with my hand, it sticks for a second and then pops back out, which makes it seem like the double stick taping is doing a lousy job of holding on

Okay, that's enough ranting about the terrible fit/finish for now. Like I said, this would be disappointing for ANY new car, much less a nearly $50K Jeep.

Oh, one other disappointment---what's up with the turn signal stalk? It feels cheap as it "crunches" when I activate the turn signals. I noticed the same thing with other Grand Cherokees I test drove, so it's not just my particular vehicle. My 11-year-old 4Runner's turn signal stalk felt so much more solid and refined, not like a cheap piece of crap that snaps. Sure, this is a little complaint and I'm sure that the turn signal stalk will work for many, many years without issue, but the point is that a new vehicle shouldn't have a turn signal stalk that snaps like a 1975 Buick.

At the end of the day, I still really like the Jeep and I have no real regrets. I'm just venting my disappointment with all these little things that shouldn't happen on a new car in this day and age.

You say its horrible, but yet you didn't notice until you were washing it? I had the problem you talk about with the door sticking on my previous Grand Cherokee and the dealer body shop fixed in ten minutes by adjusting the latch. I have the white stitching you talk about and I have not noticed the reflection, it could be there but I have not noticed which to me means its probable a non issue. I don't know if you can really blame the UAW for the things you mention, I mean really is it the UAW or Chrysler? If you were go compare to say a new Cadillac which is also built by UAW would you see the same quality issues? My guess is not... So what does that tell you? In general I really don't understand your post. You go on a rant about what a pile of garbage the vehicle is then you end by saying you really like the Jeep and have no regrets. I don't understand that.
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