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Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

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The last two times I went to fuel my Jeep I have not been able to get the gas nozzle to go into the Jeep. This is the same station with the same pumps I always use. The little metal parts that close the opening to the neck do not seem to part to allow the gas nozzle to pass through them . I thought maybe it was vacuum thing so I started the Jeep for a few seconds and turned it off. I tried again and after a lot of repositioning and wiggling I was able to get it in to start fuelling. Obviously I need to go to the dealer before I can't get gas in it at all, but has this happened to anyone else? This isn't a matter and the gas flow shutting off this is me not being able to get the nozzle into the fuel neck.

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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

If I were you, I'd get the yellow plastic fill nozzle out of the back (it's right next to the jack) and see if it will go into the fuel filler neck. Try to jiggle it around while pushing it in (hmm...that sounds, well, nevermind), but definitely don't force it.
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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

I've been all over the place: PA, NY, OH, Canada, and have never had a problem with a nozzle. If the nozzle fit prior to this problem and doesn't fit now, I would think there is a problem with the spring loaded closure. Have you tried another gas station? If the problem persists I would get it to the dealer. Good luck!
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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

Not a JGC owner yet but hopefully soon. I have rented a couple and never had any issues filling up. So I hate to be captain obvious here lol but are you sure it was gas and not diesel? I have read about people having issues with the auto shut off of the pump but never the nozzle not going in.
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Okay, I am female but I know it is not a diesel nozzle... ; ) But it never hurts to ask that question, I am sure that has happened before.

The wiggle method is the only way I can get it to fuel, and if there is a spring, I bet that is the culprit. Was curious if there was some kind of electronic switch that was not disengaging to allow it to open. Seems there is not. Going to set up an appt today to get it fixed.

I will try another station tonight when I fuel up too.

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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

It's spring loaded. I know there have been other owners that have had the problem. along with the flapper not coming back up. Dealer replace the filler part.
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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

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Okay, I am female but I know it is not a diesel nozzle... ; ) But it never hurts to ask that question, I am sure that has happened before.

The wiggle method is the only way I can get it to fuel, and if there is a spring, I bet that is the culprit. Was curious if there was some kind of electronic switch that was not disengaging to allow it to open. Seems there is not. Going to set up an appt today to get it fixed.

I will try another station tonight when I fuel up too.

Thanks!
On pumps with unleaded in the USofA, you shouldn't have any problems fitting the fuel filler into the capless tank. You might have a stuck capless valve there, I'd beat the dealer over the head and shoulders if you see this on unleaded pumps at more than one station, as it sounds like the spring load isn't allowing it to slide aside.

It isnt hard to remove that thing, twist and turn, but I'd complain.
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Now have an appointment next week to have it looked at along with the other little things I have been saving up. I went to the same gas station tonight because they were really cheap and I was able to get the nozzle in a little easier this time. Repeated tries yielded mixed results so it does appear that there is an issue with the spring. As far as twisting it off by hand I don't want to chance smelling like gas (girl thing) , but good to know it should be an easy fix. ; )

Kind of nervous about taking it in next week. Since the visor recall will have the headliner pulled down and this front seat popping noise may have the seat removed, I'm going to have to tell my advisor that when the Jeep goes in there were no scratches or scuffs on the interior. When it comes out, it should look the same.

I have not had issues with this dealer before but you just don't know my luck when I have things work on.

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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

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Originally Posted by LoveMyFirstJeep View Post
Been posting a lot lately, I've been saving up questions for you all. : )

The last two times I went to fuel my Jeep I have not been able to get the gas nozzle to go into the Jeep. This is the same station with the same pumps I always use. The little metal parts that close the opening to the neck do not seem to part to allow the gas nozzle to pass through them . I thought maybe it was vacuum thing so I started the Jeep for a few seconds and turned it off. I tried again and after a lot of repositioning and wiggling I was able to get it in to start fuelling. Obviously I need to go to the dealer before I can't get gas in it at all, but has this happened to anyone else? This isn't a matter and the gas flow shutting off this is me not being able to get the nozzle into the fuel neck.
I had the same issue, and it was after trying to fill with a gas can to use up some gas that I had lying around. The gas can nozzle went in easily (didn't know there was a special funnel) but gas didn't fill correctly and backed up so I gave up. Later that day when I went to fill at a gas station the nozzle would not go in unless forced with considerable pressure. After reading some forums it's apparent that the size of the nozzle needs to be within some tight specification. Using deep sockets I was able to get the metal door to yield without any excessive pressure using either 5/8 or 9/16 standard wall sockets. Be careful not to drop them in the tank! The next test will be to go to a gas station again to see if the issue was just because the last one had older smaller nozzles that did not displace all three of the release mechanizes far enough. It's also possible that the gas can nozzle with threaded tip did some damage to the spring mechanism when I yanked it out quickly (because fuel was leaking all over). In that case the locking tabs on the fill valve might need to be pushed all the way to their limits making the valve more fussy about the size of the nozzle?

Update: After looking a bit closer there are two "doors" in the filler neck. A metal "trap door" that has a spring loaded locking mechanism. This is not a seal, more of a barrier maybe to prevent diesel nozzles or something and should easily open when the properly sized nozzle is inserted. Further down the neck there is some sort of valve, probably a flapper type valve, to actually seal the fuel tank. When I tried to use a gas can the nozzle was not long enough or tapered properly to reach the second valve which is why the gas backed up and would not go into the tank. When I yanked it back out the threaded end of that nozzle caught the edge of the trap door and pulled it which may have damaged the hinge or spring? After fooling with it a bit I got the trap door unstuck and it seems to be OK. If it continues to jam then I obviously screwed up the mechanism and will eventually need to replace it.
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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

I had the same problem but forced the nozzle into the tank.....Haven't done it since
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Re: Can't get gas nozzle in my Jeep to fuel it.

It may seem like an insignificant thing but if you take the time to line the nozzle up with the opening and keep the nozzle parallel to the path it needs to take sliding into the filler neck you'll have far fewer problems inserting the nozzle. Like mentioned above, there's not a lot of extra tolerance in that opening and having the nozzle misaligned even slightly makes it difficult to put in. The same is true for removing it.

And yes, the Good Housekeeping seal of approval plastic hornet spray cap that I used as a dust and water cover on my 14's filler neck is still alive and working well on my 16.
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