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Old 08-09-2011, 08:31 PM
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Defective Wheel, Tire or Driver?

20" wheels, driving at moderate speed on Forest Service roads. At some point I noticed the EVIC saying that I had 5lbs of pressure in the right rear tire.

I stopped, put on the spare and continued home. Took the tire to Goodyear today. I was a bit surprised to learn that the tire did not have any puncture holes and that it had apparently gone flat due to losing it's bead/seal on the rim.

The tire is shot. Apparently I had driven on it enough to damage it. My Goodyear shop is going to see if they can do anything for warranty, since there is no puncture.

The wheel is apparently bent (slightly). It's back on the jeep now in the same position (right rear) and you can't feel any vibration. Goodyear is suggesting that I go to Jeep for a warranty claim on the bent wheel.

I've been driving forest service/logging roads all my life, but never on 20" tires (until this Jeep). Never ever lost a seal on a tire (until now), and as I noted above, I was driving moderately - even babying my overland. I've certainly driven these roads harder in my Land Rover, Mercedes ML and Surabu Outback with never an issue.

I should have noticed the EVIC earlier and avoided damaging the tire. But I'm at a complete loss as to how the seal was lost on the tire.

Goodyear says that it is possible the wheel was already bent, causing the tire to lose it's seal. Is this possible?

Thanks for any input!

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Old 08-09-2011, 09:10 PM
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Re: Defective Wheel, Tire or Driver?

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I should have noticed the EVIC earlier and avoided damaging the tire. But I'm at a complete loss as to how the seal was lost on the tire.

Goodyear says that it is possible the wheel was already bent, causing the tire to lose it's seal. Is this possible?

Thanks for any input!

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I think it is possible the rim was slightly bent, however its hard to prove that, you'll never know. However I don't think a forest service road would cause a tire to pop off the bead else you were severely under-flatted and hit a hole. As you mentioned you should notice the EVIC, when I ran over a metal pen cap in the road (Yes you read that right) it punctured the tire, I immediately noticed a chime I thought, as well as the evic message, it brought up the four tires and showed one deflating quickly!

I think you should talk to your dealer and see what they can do about the tire/rim. They very well might help you out.
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Re: Defective Wheel, Tire or Driver?

Tires were all inflated to 38, except for 39 on the right front. I had been showing the all the EVIC info to my daughter just shortly before. Neither of us noticed the chime at any time.

Thanks for the feedback Jorde. I'll be talking to the dealer tomorrow.
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20" wheels, driving at moderate speed on Forest Service roads. At some point I noticed the EVIC saying that I had 5lbs of pressure in the right rear tire.

I stopped, put on the spare and continued home. Took the tire to Goodyear today. I was a bit surprised to learn that the tire did not have any puncture holes and that it had apparently gone flat due to losing it's bead/seal on the rim.

The tire is shot. Apparently I had driven on it enough to damage it. My Goodyear shop is going to see if they can do anything for warranty, since there is no puncture.

The wheel is apparently bent (slightly). It's back on the jeep now in the same position (right rear) and you can't feel any vibration. Goodyear is suggesting that I go to Jeep for a warranty claim on the bent wheel.

I've been driving forest service/logging roads all my life, but never on 20" tires (until this Jeep). Never ever lost a seal on a tire (until now), and as I noted above, I was driving moderately - even babying my overland. I've certainly driven these roads harder in my Land Rover, Mercedes ML and Surabu Outback with never an issue.

I should have noticed the EVIC earlier and avoided damaging the tire. But I'm at a complete loss as to how the seal was lost on the tire.

Goodyear says that it is possible the wheel was already bent, causing the tire to lose it's seal. Is this possible?

Thanks for any input!

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I noticed that the spare tire is not the same size as the OEM 20 inch tire. Did you notice any problems driving with the spare on?
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I noticed that the spare tire is not the same size as the OEM 20 inch tire. Did you notice any problems driving with the spare on?
There's the exact same size and then there's the same outside diameter. The spares are the same O.D. of the stock tires.
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Re: Defective Wheel, Tire or Driver?

No issues with the spare tire - works and fits like it's supposed to.

Heard back from Goodyear this morning. They are going to replace the tire 100%, no proration for mileage (a little over 7k), so thank you Goodyear!

Have an appointment with the dealer this Friday to see about the wheel.
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