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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

Rain-X Latitudes are the inexpensive version of the beam blades. I'm not having the freezing issue with the ANCO Contours.
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Old 01-28-2011, 08:53 AM
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

so...you went into your home for 5-10 minutes after clearing the windshield and a strip of ice...from the "current falling snow" had formed ice dams ABOVE the blades "about 1/4" thick and 1.5" of ice from the wiper blades" SORRY bro...I am VERY sceptical. So the windshield was HOT enough to melt the snow as it fell......but not hot enough to keep an ice dam from forming above your wiper in 5-10 minutes?

Do you have serious buyers remorse? Are you a troll who doesnt even have a Jeep? Sorry....but all those things come to mind.

Some of these claims of only 24 degrees and ice forming on a heated windshield are just about impossible. I almost want to send a letter to myth busters....LOL the WK's set up...looks to me like...is just about the same. The vents are set up the same way and so are the wipers. I have driven in inclement weather just as you have described and never had the same happen. I have never used anything but regular washer fluid an dstock wipers. Matter of fact...I have driven in WORSE conditions than you describe in the last 2 weeks and had 0 problems. As a matter of fact...I left work one Sat. morning a couple weeks ago when we were getting 3-4" per hour......and the Jep was cold. just saying....
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

and not trying to be an ass...but your not very good at weather conditions...heres your weather from weather.com

http://www.weather.com/weather/today/USPA1290


past 24 hours....
.06 precip.
.9 snow...

Wind:
From SSW at 1mph
Humidity: 90%
Dew Point:25
Pressure: 29.73 in
Visibility: 0.8 mi
UV Index: 0 - Low


not quite 3" or 1/4"----1/2" per hour
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

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so...you went into your home for 5-10 minutes after clearing the windshield and a strip of ice...from the "current falling snow" had formed ice dams ABOVE the blades "about 1/4" thick and 1.5" of ice from the wiper blades" SORRY bro...I am VERY sceptical. So the windshield was HOT enough to melt the snow as it fell......but not hot enough to keep an ice dam from forming above your wiper in 5-10 minutes?
Yes, this is exactly what happened. I remote started the Jeep before beginning to brush all the snow off of the vehicle. This took about 7 minutes. Then I went inside for four or five minutes. When I came back out - the ice damn had formed. The windshield gets warm above the dashboard, but the area where the wipers rest, where the glass is black, receives no heat.

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Do you have serious buyers remorse? Are you a troll who doesnt even have a Jeep? Sorry....but all those things come to mind.
I don't have buyer's remorse. I love the Jeep. I would buy it again. I'm just having this problem and I posted here to (1) see if others are seeing the same behavior (a few are) and (2) get constructive suggestions. You can call me a troll; I can call you a sycophant. Neither activity is constructive.

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Some of these claims of only 24 degrees and ice forming on a heated windshield are just about impossible.
They would be impossible - if that area of the windshield was heated. Therein lies the problem. The wipers rest below where the heat reaches. It is for this very reason that subaru puts heating elements below where the wipers rest. (I've never owned a subaru and have no desire to own one; I'm just using it as a comparison.)
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and not trying to be an ass...but your not very good at weather conditions...heres your weather from weather.comr
You are trying to be an ass. If you have to make such a qualifying statement, then the opposite of said statement is true. I'm trying to have a constructive conversation. You seem to not be interested in such.

Yes, they did get just under 1" of snow in Pittsburgh. I don't live in Pittsburgh. I live in an outlying area about 300' higher in elevation. Higher elevations get more snow.
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

LOL.....whom am I trying to impress? Jeep? What a laugher.......

Im just being real here bro......now it is 4-5 minutes that ice had formed a dam above your wipers and they were completely frozen to the windshield in 4-5 minutes in 27 degree weather with very, VERY light snowfall? Sorry...I dont believe it....thats just my opinion. take it for what its worth. If this is true.,....I hope they lemon your jeep and give you a new one that doesnt do this. But I am very skeptical to say the least. Sorry....thats just what i believe...and its not to impress anyone.
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You are trying to be an ass. If you have to make such a qualifying statement, then the opposite of said statement is true. I'm trying to have a constructive conversation. You seem to not be interested in such.

Yes, they did get just under 1" of snow in Pittsburgh. I don't live in Pittsburgh. I live in an outlying area about 300' higher in elevation. Higher elevations get more snow.

well....I am a man...I apologize if thats how it came off. I just giving my opinion on how I see it. If you got 3"...then ok.
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

Physically impossible. Never happened. Not at 27 degrees unless it was freezing rain. Care to change the story?
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

This thread is getting nowhere.

It might help to poll residents of NE US and Canada to see how many are actually having frozen wipers. If it's just one guy, let's move on. If it's for real, then how about some ideas for common-sense fixes?

For example, is there a gasket under the rear of the hood which could be selectively notched to allow some engine heat to hit the wipers and lower glass?
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This thread is getting nowhere.

It might help to poll residents of NE US and Canada to see how many are actually having frozen wipers. If it's just one guy, let's move on. If it's for real, then how about some ideas for common-sense fixes?

For example, is there a gasket under the rear of the hood which could be selectively notched to allow some engine heat to hit the wipers and lower glass?
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

I cant believe this thread is still going, I've been on holidays for how long & your still whinging about a non issue?
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Re: Design Flaw - wipers freeze up when driving in cold, wet conditions

we had SUPER heavy snow yesterday and the wipers did freeze up some. But as soon as I stopped and let the windshield thaw properly they weren't any more frozen than any other wiper I have had on different vehicles. My feeling is a winter blade would have avoided many of the issues I was seeing yesterday.
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