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Old 01-31-2012, 12:30 PM
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

I have the same problem, not able to see the nav during dust or before dust. Turn off the auto wipers and it works fine. I think they need to have it reprogrammed or its an error in the system.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

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I have the same problem, not able to see the nav during dust or before dust. Turn off the auto wipers and it works fine. I think they need to have it reprogrammed or its an error in the system.
Good to know I am not only one with this. Going to ask dealer about it next time I am in. AS stated earlier, it defeats the purpose of auto lights, nav system and wipers if you have to turn one or other off or to manual settings. The system works great with the wipers in off position so I find it odd that wipers in auto mode would affect it.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

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Agree! Pretty much defeats the pupose. Those that choose to go thru the steps of changing the settings or switching the wipers to off can do so. I'm with you, why have the headlights come on when it's still daylight, no mater what you have your wipers set at. I would like to see someone reply to this issue without just providing a work around!
Is their somthing not working right? Or is this just a factory configuration flaw that they choose to let us all live with?
Going to inquire at dealer next time I am in. AS you said, it defeats the purpose and we paid to have these options!!
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

This is purely an assumption on my part:

Chryco assumes that, if there is no chance of rain, the auto-wipers would not be enabled by the user (auto-sense OFF). If the auto-wipers are enables, there must be at least intermittent rain, therefore "cloudy" conditions (reduced daylight) requireing headlights; consequently dimming the interior lighting.

That said, I remember growing up in the Midwest seeing perfectly clear summer days with a light rain coming down. Kind of negates their assumption (or my assumption)....

Again, purely assumption on my part, based on the observed symptoms.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

If you don't want it to dim, shouldn't the dimmer control be at the second detent? This position turns the instrument panel lights to full brightness, regardless of whether the lights are on or off.

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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

When the dimmer switch is left in the second detent, the Nav display also stays in the daytime mode. If it is dark outside, that can be distracting and you would want to turn down the dial. Without Nav, it's probably not an issue because the dash gauges can still be seen.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

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This is purely an assumption on my part:

Chryco assumes that, if there is no chance of rain, the auto-wipers would not be enabled by the user (auto-sense OFF). If the auto-wipers are enables, there must be at least intermittent rain, therefore "cloudy" conditions (reduced daylight) requireing headlights; consequently dimming the interior lighting.

That said, I remember growing up in the Midwest seeing perfectly clear summer days with a light rain coming down. Kind of negates their assumption (or my assumption)....

Again, purely assumption on my part, based on the observed symptoms.
Had also considered that myself and guess it is possible but kind of negates the "auto" wiper feature and as you said, not always dark out when raining.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

Posted this in an "auto wipers" thread but applies equally to this thread given it relates to headlights (and auto dim).

Can anyone confirm the following for me...

If auto wiper setting is on, but the wipers are in the off position on the stick, the wipers won't come on automatically?

Therefore, despite being "auto", in order to get them working you need to move the wipers from the off position to one of the detents?

And furthermore, if i leave the wiper setting in one of the detents when it's not wet or raining during the day the headlights will remain on until i move the wiper setting back to the off position on the stick?
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

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If auto wiper setting is on, but the wipers are in the off position on the stick, the wipers won't come on automatically?

Therefore, despite being "auto", in order to get them working you need to move the wipers from the off position to one of the detents?

And furthermore, if i leave the wiper setting in one of the detents when it's not wet or raining during the day the headlights will remain on until i move the wiper setting back to the off position on the stick?
When the wipers are in the off position they will not turn on automatically, you need to move the switch off the indent. This tells the system what level of moisture you want the wipers to turn on (variable sensing controlled by rotation position). The off indent is telling the system don't detect moisture. The headlights will remain off until the system turns on a wipe, and will remain on for a few minutes after the wipers turn off.

The rain sensor is above the mirror, and if the moisture does not hit in that area of the windshield, the wipers will not turn on.

Thats the way my 2011 works..

Anytime the headlights are on, the dash dims to the night vision level. You can defeat this using the dimmer, role it back to the second indent. The dimmer switch has three indents and a variable region. Full up first indent turns dome lights on, second indent turns dash lights to daytime level, the third indent fully at the bottom turns interior lights off. So you can set your preference by using the dimmer switch. I typically leave my headlight off as I don't like them turing on everytime I enter the garage.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

You can adjust the max brightness level for the Nav unit in the Nav options menu. Doing this will keep the nav/media screen at a reasonable brightness at night. I personally prefer a brighter dash at night. Not at the highest setting, but perhaps brighter than some might like. I have the 430N with the Garmin, and I really do not like the "night" colors that the Garmin switches to (dark background) and prefer it stay on the "day" colors (white/light background).

There are enough settings on the GC that just about anyone should be able to get it adjusted to something you are comfortable with.

I actually like the feature that the headlights/light turn on, and brightness adjusts to night levels when the wipers are on (after a brief time-lag).
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

I personally wish that the dial that controls brightness of the dash does not control the brightness of the Nav/Radio screen. I usually like to keep my dash half bright but doing so right now will reduce the brightness of the nav screen.

This way, if the headlights are on during wiper operation, the nav screen will still be bright.
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Re: Display's dim before its dark out with rain sensing wipers activated

To adjust the daytime and nighttime brightness you have to do the following (this is independent of the lighting level control next to the headlight switch):

Push the MENU hard button (right side, 2nd from the top)

Push the DISPLAY soft button (top right side)

Push the DAYTIME COLORS soft button. A soft slide scale will come up. Adjust for your preferred daytime brightness. If you are using the 2nd click position on the control next to the headlight switch, this will also be your nightime brightness.

Push the NIGHTTIME COLORS soft button and repeat. This is the nighttime brightness if you are in AUTO COLOR MODE and NOT on the 2nd click position.

When you are finished adjusting the day and night brightness, you have to push the AUTO COLOR MODE button if you want to use the 2nd click position on the control next to the headlight switch to control the media screen brightness. Otherwise if you leave this screen in DAY or NIGHTTIME COLORS, the media screen will remain constantly at that brightness even if you dim the dash lights using the control next to the headlight switch. (Aiyer - note this is for your request).

All this is explained in the 430N Media Center Manual starting on page 30 or the 730N Media Center Manual.

http://wk2jeeps.com/manuals/RBZ_RHB_users_manual.pdf

http://wk2jeeps.com/manuals/RHR_users_manual.pdf
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