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Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

I had a 2014 Limited before my current 2015 Overland. Both 3.6L Gas.
The Limited once flashed with good firmware never had another issue. Put 27K on it and it was probably fixed at around 6K.

My current Overland has 12K on it and has been fine.

But recently when I first start up and take off, it seems to do a late shift.
Not sure from what gear to what gear yet.

My work just moved to a new location. It's at the top of a hill.
It's just at the top of the hill when I start out it does this one late shift.

When I take off in the morning from home I have a long driveway to back up. It's all level and never has an issue.

It definitely doesn't feel right. But maybe it's just a quirk of it being cold and quickly heading down a hill.

Just curious if anyone has noticed this and it's just a quirk. Or it's the start of a problem. After that one late shift. It's seems completely normal after that.

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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

I have a 2015 Limited with the V6 and I have the problem you mentioned. I've also had 2 of the updates applied, but what seems to work the best for me is let it warm up for a few minutes. If I don't do that the 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd initial 2 or 3 shifts
are very noticeable. Backing out of your driveway sounds like it is long enough from the transmission to warm up where it behaves as we all expect it to.
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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

Trans fluid when cold can resemble problems as you described on start up. I'm coming from a 2011 Audi with dual clutch transmission that always shifted like crap when I didn't let it warm up. I tend to auto start the jeep in the morning before I finish my coffee. Never had a problem.


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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

It's not unusual for any auto trans to act that way when starting out cold. I thought I read that Jeep is adding a trans heater in 16 to speed up the warm up process.
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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

I get around the warmup by using the paddle shifter when starting out from my house. Typically, I back out of the driveway, then after selecting drive, paddle shift into 2nd before hitting the gas. I am starting out slow anyway. As I drive down the street I paddle shift each gear at around 1500 or so rpms. Works very smoothly for each gear. If I stop or turn on another road, I hold the paddle shifter down to go back into drive and let it start shifting automatically. It seems smooth after the start out sequence. If it is not yet warm, I may paddle shift up earlier back into manual mode. This saves some gas as well since the upshifts are a little delayed when cold. Once warmed up, I hold the paddle shifter to go back into auto mode. It becomes 2nd nature.


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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

Yep, I have a hard 2-3 shift each morning when it is cold. After the first shift the trans operates normally. I have an early 2014 build (took delivery Mar 2013).

Not a big deal to me. I have had many issues with my vehicle but the trans has not been one of them. This thing shifts beautifully otherwise...
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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

Agree. Mine was built in March 2013 as well. It is a V6. Shifts smoothly with the flash updates done. Only problem not software was a leaky rear shock replaced when it was about a year old.


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Re: Does your 3.6L Transmission do this

I've noticed this lately as well. Hopefully it's nothing. I love my car but too many little issues. My dad just picked up a '15 Edge Sport and the thing is great. Not one problem. Us Jeep owners on the other hand have a laundry list of issues and annoyances. Ugh


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I've noticed this lately as well. Hopefully it's nothing. I love my car but too many little issues. My dad just picked up a '15 Edge Sport and the thing is great. Not one problem. Us Jeep owners on the other hand have a laundry list of issues and annoyances. Ugh


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Since August 2013 I've brought my first Jeep in twice for two software updates 27K miles and the second Jeep since Feb has not been to dealer yet 12K miles.

Just checking if normal. I woukd not call it a hard shift. More like a weak shift. My commute went from 35min to 9min so I was thinking of remote starting any way so it will get fully warmed up before I get home.

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Yep, I have a hard 2-3 shift each morning when it is cold. After the first shift the trans operates normally.

Not a big deal to me. I have had many issues with my vehicle but the trans has not been one of them. This thing shifts beautifully otherwise...


Agreed- Same here.
The first few shifts out of the driveway are hard, after that all is good. Good info in this thread!


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Since August 2013 I've brought my first Jeep in twice for two software updates 27K miles and the second Jeep since Feb has not been to dealer yet 12K miles.

Just checking if normal. I woukd not call it a hard shift. More like a weak shift. My commute went from 35min to 9min so I was thinking of remote starting any way so it will get fully warmed up before I get home.

Thanks for the replies.

I'm just sick of having to do things like this. I had a 2008 with absolutely NO problems at all. Damn they don't make them like they used to. I have a brand new $46,000 car why do I have to do little things like this? When I had a $32,000 Laredo it worked great. They jack up the prices and make a shittier product. Thanks Chrysler!



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I'm just sick of having to do things like this. I had a 2008 with absolutely NO problems at all. Damn they don't make them like they used to. I have a brand new $46,000 car why do I have to do little things like this? When I had a $32,000 Laredo it worked great. They jack up the prices and make a shittier product. Thanks Chrysler!



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I don't have to do anything. It's just the way it is. It's really no biggy.

To get efficiency, things become more complex. I just installed a 97% furnace and 99% hot water. They are extremely complex compared to the old system. But they save a lot of fuel and better for our one allocated planet.

The 8 Speed Transmission is very complex. It's probably recalibrating during these early odd shifts. I'd take this 8 speed over any old dumb 3, 4 or 6 speed.
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