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lets just leave it at if you use them great (DRL), if you dont thats great too. differant strokes folks
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lets just leave it at if you use them great (DRL), if you dont thats great too. differant strokes folks
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I'd agree, except not using DRLs is putting my four lovely daughters and spouse at risk of death or injury, just because a few hot heads think they are right and damn the science, or the facts. Same hot heads who's ancestors, perhaps, just knew the world was flat because it had to be.

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:00 AM
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Re: DRL destroyed reflector

In my last post I was going to add that the last time the loony bin doors were left open they formed the NRA but I wasn't sure it was appropriate under the circumstances. This isn't the place... but then neither was the school yard. Moderator: do as you see fit!
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Do they lower how bright the high beams are with the DRL? I know the older models they had their fog lights on at full blast. That maybe the problem with you guys seeming the clouds.

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I'd agree, except not using DRLs is putting my four lovely daughters and spouse at risk of death or injury, just because a few hot heads think they are right and damn the science, or the facts. Same hot heads who's ancestors, perhaps, just knew the world was flat because it had to be.

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People have gotten on for a long time without DRLs. People are becoming too reliant on these "safety features". Are all cars without DRLs invisible to you? If you don't see lights are you just going to pull out of that side street? How about we be a little less lazy and look for cars and not lights. Isn't your family worth that little extra brain power?

I'm not saying DRLs should be banned, and I don't agree with everything that "association" has to say, but from what I've seen, most, if not all, of the statistics that show a reduction in crashes are from countries which have predominantly low light conditions all the time, and in those situations light will obviously help, but one could just as easily turn their headlights on in low light conditions. I legally can, and should be able to, choose in what daylight conditions I use my headlights. It's not always appropriate for headlights to be on. Why should I not be able to turn them off completely?


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Re: DRL destroyed reflector

Hi Studgun, I certainly have some sympathy for your argument about being in control of the car - not the other way around. However, in my neighborhood at twilight and rainy low-visibility times only half of drivers turn on their lights. The other half are incredibly difficult to see!
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Re: DRL destroyed reflector

I don't particularly want to change to LED lights but since both my DRL front reflectors and sockets PLUS rear brake light reflectors (one changed already) are damaged from heat it seems there is no way around it. It would only be fair if the warranty covered the change!
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Re: DRL destroyed reflector

I changed out my DRL's to LED's very early on, must have done it before the ""10a-200p" fogging started as I do not have this on my covers.

One thing to be aware of with LED's if you live in the colder climes. They do not throw heat so therefore will NOT melt ice/snow build-up if driving in these conditions. Granted, whenever driving in low vis conditions it's prudent to use the headlights/foglights.

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People have gotten on for a long time without DRLs. People are becoming too reliant on these "safety features". Are all cars without DRLs invisible to you? If you don't see lights are you just going to pull out of that side street? How about we be a little less lazy and look for cars and not lights. Isn't your family worth that little extra brain power

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I think you misunderstand, even the most attentive drivers fail to see oncoming vehicles in many situations. The family attentiveness or brain is not the issue, its the half brain idiots driving around without lights in difficult to be seen conditions... or perhaps just forgetting to turn their lights on because they are busy texting. Perhaps you need to stop blaming the victims of these idiots.

Its possible that the stats in low light areas are better, or in areas where there are long straights in bright, hot, or hazy conditions, but the stats are significantly better everywhere.

Yes if everyone was attentive and manually turned their lights on in poor visibility conditions there would be no need for the automatic safety feature.. but perhaps only 10% of the drivers are as attentive as you... the rest, in your terms, don't use their brain, and I suspect even you are absent mined now and again. We all are being punished for the incompetent drivers I guess.

I'm wondering why so many road construction sites now have mandatory lights on requirements. Whats the stats there? The incompetent construction workers aren't seeing cars I suppose... I suppose you think they are beneath you in brain power and don't deserve to have a life?
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Well said, ColdCase! BTW, is that a cold case of beer, or what?
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I don't particularly want to change to LED lights but since both my DRL front reflectors and sockets PLUS rear brake light reflectors (one changed already) are damaged from heat it seems there is no way around it. It would only be fair if the warranty covered the change!
Same over here not a big fan of LED bulbs either (though the technology is great, just think that reflector/bulb/lamp should be designed together).
I will try 3047 bulbs which are a little weaker 21/7 and hopefully less hot.

What I wonder do those standard headlamps with halogen get foggy as well? There should be even more heat than with the DRLs. Maybe it's not the heat but the on/off switching during the turncycle? Switching a lamp on pulls a lot of Ampere before the thread lights up. Maybe too much for the socket?
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