Originally Posted by Escape
There are 3 areas it will store codes.
Historic, Active and Pending.
I'd check the pending as it will store a code in there but not trip the engine light as it has not occured a specific number of times.
As for the problem. I'd look at your key fob recoginition module thing, cam or crank shaft position sensors and connections/wiring.
In my old Jeep (94 ZJ) it would suddenly die while driving and it was a common issue for it to be a failed crank sensor.
Also check your power steering fluid level. If it is low and you were idling around the round-about and turning it could cause an excessive load on the engine causing it to stall out.
You my friend...are an asset to this community!
I pretty much regurgitated what you said out to the service staff this morning. They were a) surprised at how much knowledge about this I had and b) now know they don't have any short cuts to find out what the problem is as I want them to provide me these reports.
Originally they were going to keep my vehicle for a day or so but after I mentioned what you said they told me that they'd need it for more time as their "specialist" is not going to be available to do all of that today with his current work load. I know it's bulldonkey but whatever. They said they'd call me Saturday afternoon/evening with the full diagnosis and reports. The dealer claimed it couldn't be the keyfob because he said as long as you started your vehicle with it, it shall remain on until the next time you start up. Even if the batter dies for the fob whilst driving. He said it was a safety feature with the pushstart to avoid the car shutting off whilst driving if there were any keyfob problems.
I'm going to wait and see what happened. I'm quite annoyed with the issues that are already coming out of a vehicle that is not even at 6,000kms on the oddometer. It's not the service centers fault per say. I'm going to see what happens, if anything else "serious" occurs once more, Chrysler USA is going to get an official complaint from me about their vehicle. I love the damned thing, don't get me wrong. But the fact that I have had this issue so early in the vehicles life is not something I should be dealing with...It hurts even more cause I'm a first time jeep buyer. I was extremely excited with my purchase (paid all in cash too) and I still am excited and love my vehicle...but I'm not excited about going in to the dealer every two weeks after they did the TSBs for the RER/GasTankLining/ESC updates. I was wondering and talking to the service center today if any of these issues could be because of these TSBs and he said he doubts it because it's supposed to improve the vehicle not make it worse but there is a chance things went wrong during the TSBs and these little things need mending. At that point I told him "shutting off an engine by itself without any warning whilst in a roundabout...is not a little thing".
The service center tried to get me a replacement vehicle and after 15 minutes told me that they didn't have any left. I had to take a cab (they didn't have a driver or offer to pay my cab fee). I found this ridiculous since I've been constantly taking cabs and facing "no replacement cars available" since I've been going in.
I hate going in and on taddle taling n what not. I am good friends with their Service management and the Sales/Corporate management here in Kuwait. I would feel like it would be abusing my relations with them to force some sort of compensation or effort on their behalf but I'm sorry...This is ridiculous. I have to constantly pay cab fees and waste my time to bring the car in (and on top of that be without a car for several days each time) because they gave me a faulty vehicle (or maybe screwed it up whilst performing the TSBs?).
I this gets settled soon. I'm a very patient person but I'm really starting to lose my patience now. Thanks for listening to this rant and Really...THANK YOU ESCAPE! They know I mean business. I didn't have this technical knowledge prior to your message. Now I've learned some new things that could cause such an issue. I gained a considerable amount of utility from that message. Thank you again!