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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

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or reach your hand under there and give it a light pull, it should not move at all let alone come off. Better to find it out now and have it addressed than be halfway across the country on a vacation or something.
I did just that...made a new mark with a sharpie and gave her a twist/pull. Nothing seemed to move but I will keep an eye on it. Maybe have a dealer double check when I go in for first oil change.
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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

Just picked up the new Overland.
Got it up on the lift, bands tight, factory markings all in line, so far so good...

Will definitely keep an eye on it, my build date on the door was 4/2014 but when I called, they said the exact date was 4/5/2014 (Saturday)?

Thanks to the OP for the heads up!
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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

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Just picked up the new Overland.
Got it up on the lift, bands tight, factory markings all in line, so far so good...

Will definitely keep an eye on it, my build date on the door was 4/2014 but when I called, they said the exact date was 4/5/2014 (Saturday)?

Thanks to the OP for the heads up!
The actual build date is on the sticker on the inside of the driver side door. I believe the upper left date is month/year and the bottom right says MDH which is month/day/hour.
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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

Maaaaaaaannnnnn, I just took a look at mine....my right side front is clean, but my left side has the CV grease but not a whole lot has flung out due to me not driving it much and at high speed. This sux! I'm not driving to the dealer like that, I'm gonna have it towed, I don't want to make the mess worse, not to mention the safety issue. Mine is a Summit w. 5.7, are there other models affected or just certain ones?


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Old 05-03-2014, 09:14 AM
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Maaaaaaaannnnnn, I just took a look at mine....my right side front is clean, but my left side has the CV grease but not a whole lot has flung out due to me not driving it much and at high speed. This sux! I'm not driving to the dealer like that, I'm gonna have it towed, I don't want to make the mess worse, not to mention the safety issue. Mine is a Summit w. 5.7, are there other models affected or just certain ones?


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I am pretty sure it is not limited to the Summit. Pretty much any model that was on the line at that time.
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Maaaaaaaannnnnn, I just took a look at mine....my right side front is clean, but my left side has the CV grease but not a whole lot has flung out due to me not driving it much and at high speed. This sux! I'm not driving to the dealer like that, I'm gonna have it towed, I don't want to make the mess worse, not to mention the safety issue. Mine is a Summit w. 5.7, are there other models affected or just certain ones?
Post photos as a service to everyone on the forum. Be sure to get photo from underneath to see if the clamp is completely off or not. Also photo of the good wheel two to see if the inspection markings still align.
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Welcome to the club!

I am pretty sure it is not limited to the Summit. Pretty much any model that was on the line at that time.
LOL! This is one club I didn't want to be apart of! lol!

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Post photos as a service to everyone on the forum. Be sure to get photo from underneath to see if the clamp is completely off or not. Also photo of the good wheel two to see if the inspection markings still align.
Im preparing the pics right now my friend
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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

Here are my pics....
First pic is of the left front, the bad wheel. I think I see the clamp which is the most closest piece towards the wheel. 2nd pic is of the "for now" good side, the right side, BUT as you can plainly see, the alignment mark is not aligned, and there is a bit of grease to been seen on the edge, this CV boot is affected as well, but has not broke free like the left side.

So I explicitly repeated that my good friends here on JeepGarage and Jeep Forum are experiencing the same issue, and that the fix has been to replace both axles. What I did first was called around to diff. Jeep dealers to find if who has seen this problem and repaired it, and who has not seen this problem. Only one dealer has seen this issue and the rest haven't, I believe that was 1 of 4-5 dealers I called. I eventually called the tow truck and they had to bring it to the nearest dealer, which has not seen the issue. I repeatedly told the SA that other folks that have experienced this have had both axles replaced by Chrysler. I wanted to emphasize this b/c knowing my luck, they would try to jerry rig the clamp or something that wasn't to my liking.

So can anyone please confirm that the only fix for this issue is to replace with brand new axles? Please someone chime in and relieve my fears that replacing axles has been the only fix, lol! I have to search this thread again, one member posted the part numbers, hopefully of which are for brand new axles and not remanufactured ones.

I'm just hoping they replace both axles with news ones and get all of that excess grease cleaned up, and I'll be happy.
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Re: Grease In Both Front Wheels... Normal?

^^^^^^^^^^^

Aw maann! Yep, 'fo shizzle your other one is about to blow! There is absolutely no way grease should be getting under the clamped boot end. You should not wait for total failure as it is obviously in failure mode and a dealer would have to agree (right?).

Yes, 52124712AC is the RH full axle assembly and 52124713AC is the LH. (pics below) I cannot imagine them being remanufactured. Too much liability. These are shared, however, for the last 2 years with Durangos, etc that don't have the electronic front differentials.

Based on TypeRod's experience and pictures I am gonna make the call here and now. I'm gonna guess that his "about to fail" pic is representative of all the failures in that the clamps are installed but not tight enough which is allowing grease to get between the rubber boot and larger smooth end of the axle causing it to slide off from the horizontal tension created in turns. Boom!

And, yes axle assembly replacement is and will almost assuredly remain the only remedy. Chrysler will not pay (and YOU should not allow) the dealer to rebuild in place or cut the loose clamp off and install a worm drive clamp, etc... Too costly, too much variability, no set dealer service procedure, too much liability, was joint damaged by running dry?, did salt water/dirt get in to cause early failure if "rebuilt" in field?, etc....

NOTE: IMHO TypeRods experience and photo should serve as a HUGE cautionary note to anyone who only had one half-shaft/axle assembly replaced because grease was only obvious inside one wheel. I am not trying to freak anyone out but his experience basically shows that your "other" side is, will or could fail. WATCH IT!

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Aw maann! Yep, 'fo shizzle your other one is about to blow! There is absolutely no way grease should be getting under the clamped boot end. You should not wait for total failure as it is obviously in failure mode and a dealer would have to agree (right?).

Yes, 52124712AC is the RH full axle assembly and 52124713AC is the LH. (pics below) I cannot imagine them being remanufactured. Too much liability. These are shared, however, for the last 2 years with Durangos, etc that don't have the electronic front differentials.

Based on TypeRods experience and pictures I am gonna make the call here and now. I'm gonna guess that his "about to fail" pic is representative of all the failures in that the clamps are installed but not tight enough which is allowing grease to get between the rubber boot and larger smooth end of the axle causing it to slide off from the horizontal tension created in turns. Boom!

And, yes axle assembly replacement is and will almost assuredly remain the only remedy. Chrysler will not pay (and YOU should not allow) the dealer to rebuild in place or cut the loose clamp off and install a worm drive clamp, etc... Too costly, too much variability, no set dealer service procedure, too much liability, was joint damaged by running dry?, did salt water/dirt get in to cause early failure if "rebuilt" in field?, etc....

I think my stay at the Holiday Inn Express has paid for itself!
Thanks for confirming the part numbers and comforting me about getting new axles! loL! I feel better now sorta, I just called my father and informed him of what happened, and now he suggests I should ask for a replacement vehicle. My JGC only has 31 miles on it, today is the 7th day in my possession. Do I have a case for a replacement vehicle? In my mind, No, but my father's mind, hell yea! lol! He has a point, I'm paying quite a bit for this vehicle, more than most of the folks on here, just due to negative equity from the car I traded in for my JCG.

14SummitHemi, could you please school me for a second. In this scenario where the axles are to be replaced, when the word axle is used, that is the end of the a shaft going into the transmission, and the opposite end being the end that goes into the hub of the wheel? Thanks again!
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With all due respect to dad, no case! Let 'em fix it and happily put miles your new JGC. Stuff happens, shouldn't, but it does. I view this stuff kinda like the Apollo 13 movie. "Looks like we had our one glitch for this mission."

Close on the axle thing. Generically, an axle connects a drive wheel to a differential (not tranny). The driveshaft connects the differentials to the tranny. The front diff on the JGC uses 2 (L & R) half-shafts (axle assy) to connect the wheel hub and the differential case. The differential simply translates power from one direction to a "different" direction.
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