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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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Overall, the GC has been very reliable. The A/S issues are, partly, due to:

1. New technology for Jeep (VW, MB, BMW, etc. all had same issues at launch)
2. Service Depts. weren't up to speed with repairs/system-functions.
3. Dealers/sales-teams were not fully trained to educate/inform the customers.
4. Customers were/are confused with operation and function mistaking normal operation as a defect.

I would typically wait 2 model years following a new vehicle launch. The 2011s were launched in 2010, so you should be good to go.

This is the best Jeep, ever. And that's a statement for me considering it had to make up for the POS I bought new in '92. It literally fell apart. Hated that thing and never looked at a Jeep until the new GC.

Yes, late 2012 model or early 2013 model is something I'm looking at, especially now I know the 8-speed is probably not coming very soon for gas engines.

Some early generations of GC obviously have terrible reliability. But I have seen quite a few happy new JGC owners. The new JGC is indeed a great car in terms of capability/look/value. If reliability holds up, we have a true winner.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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Early '12 build of a Limited. No QL of course but just about every option. I went to the dealer for an intermittent headlight switch problem. Turned out a screw needed to be tightened. Everything else perfect after 6500K miles. One of the best vehicles I've owned.
Nice choice. I'm actually thinking about a limited model Most dealers have tons of laredo and overland but not limited in their inventory.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:20 PM
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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Thanks. Do you mind elaborating a little bit about the minor issues?

Driver side window switch sometimes sticks/ cuts out. Auto up and down works fine but when manually trying to set it, it sometimes will cut out. I've been told it's a switch and plan to have it replaced when I take it in for service in a few weeks. The only other issue is a very slight hwy humming noise at different speeds. I'm hoping it's a tire issue as I am not very impressed with the 20" GYs. That's it...the jeep has been great thus far. It's very faint and most folks probably wouldn't even notice it. THe quiet cabin doesn't do it any favors when there are minor rattles, exterior noises, etc.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

I had air suspension in the rear of my last truck (Ford) and never had a problem in 82k miles. My Jeep has nearly 7k on it in 2 months and the only problem I have with it is my kids playing with it and parking it on its highest setting "because it looks cool".
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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Nice choice. I'm actually thinking about a limited model Most dealers have tons of laredo and overland but not limited in their inventory.
That's a good choice if getting no options with limited. Once you add lux package & 730 radio than you are better off getting Overland package.Thats why there are more Overlands than Limited's. Just a thought theres a hold on Advanced Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control for limited .
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

To those looking at the BMW's because they are concerned about the Jeep reliability. Be careful, because if you think BMW's are super reliable your in for a treat. Not saying they are bad cars because they aren't, they are excellent vehicles, but my friend bought a new X5 two months ago. It spent its entire first month of ownership at the dealership for electrical issues galore. BMW ended up just buying it back from him lol.
I would say if reliability is your biggest concern maybe go with the Acura MDX.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

I traded my 2011 jeep for a 2011 3 series and we also have a 2011 5 series with 7k and 16k miles on them. No problems with either vehicle. Jeep customer service was horrible throughout my process. I even asked to trade in my jeep for a later 2011 build and I got no support from Jeep or the dealer. After getting a better trade in value from BMW I went back. I had a 2007 BMW 3 after a lot of problems with my 2006 grand Cherokee overland. We also had a 2009 BMW 5 series with little issues. While BMW might not be the most reliable brand, compared to my last two jeeps they have been awesome. That's my personal experience. I've had 7 jeeps, all dealer maintained And after Daimler took over Chrysler the issues grew. I hope Jeep is able to fix these issues quickly. It looks like the 2012s are better.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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To those looking at the BMW's because they are concerned about the Jeep reliability. Be careful, because if you think BMW's are super reliable your in for a treat. Not saying they are bad cars because they aren't, they are excellent vehicles, but my friend bought a new X5 two months ago. It spent its entire first month of ownership at the dealership for electrical issues galore. BMW ended up just buying it back from him lol.
I would say if reliability is your biggest concern maybe go with the Acura MDX.
Reliability is not the biggest concern in my decision, and I'm OK with average reliability in the industry. I guess BMW is about average (or even slightly worse), Mercedes is above average, but many people still buy BMW because it drives like a dream. For JGC, it looks great and it has great capability, so I'm OK if it has average (or even slightly worse than average) reliability.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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That's a good choice if getting no options with limited. Once you add lux package & 730 radio than you are better off getting Overland package.Thats why there are more Overlands than Limited's. Just a thought theres a hold on Advanced Warning and Adaptive Cruise Control for limited .
Yep it's funny. Laredo equipped with X pkg and panoramic sunroof can be more expensive than Limited, and Limited equipped Luxury pkg and 20'' wheels can be more expensive than Overland.

I guess people go for limited because they want to avoid the air suspension, or avoid the wood steering wheel.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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I traded my 2011 jeep for a 2011 3 series and we also have a 2011 5 series with 7k and 16k miles on them. No problems with either vehicle. Jeep customer service was horrible throughout my process. I even asked to trade in my jeep for a later 2011 build and I got no support from Jeep or the dealer. After getting a better trade in value from BMW I went back. I had a 2007 BMW 3 after a lot of problems with my 2006 grand Cherokee overland. We also had a 2009 BMW 5 series with little issues. While BMW might not be the most reliable brand, compared to my last two jeeps they have been awesome. That's my personal experience. I've had 7 jeeps, all dealer maintained And after Daimler took over Chrysler the issues grew. I hope Jeep is able to fix these issues quickly. It looks like the 2012s are better.
It seems more than a few people have big issues with early 2011 models ... really hope we can some jdpower/truedelta reliability results for 2012 models.
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Re: How's reliability if without Air Suspension? (Just checked truedelta.com)

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Yep it's funny. Laredo equipped with X pkg and panoramic sunroof can be more expensive than Limited, and Limited equipped Luxury pkg and 20'' wheels can be more expensive than Overland.

I guess people go for limited because they want to avoid the air suspension, or avoid the wood steering wheel.
Exactly the reason I got my Limited. I wanted the X package with Nav and pano sunroof. Price difference between the options on Laredo and Limited base was only $1200 and you get lot more on the limited. Easy decision.
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Exactly the reason I got my Limited. I wanted the X package with Nav and pano sunroof. Price difference between the options on Laredo and Limited base was only $1200 and you get lot more on the limited. Easy decision.

Yes I'm with you on X vs limited. I wanted the limited also but was on the fence with QL. I do some hunting & fishing when in foul weather and need a little more height (flooded roads, snow drifts) QL will be handy sooo Overland for me. I will be getting Lifetime Max Care for a clear head.
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