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Re: If your 8spd trans is rough, put your hand up

hmmm, am I the only one not experience mechanical issues with their 2014 Overland???? so far so good 700 miles.....not any major hickups, just a couple minor things t hat I already found fixes to....

like when using remote start from inside the car, then hidding the brake, then trying to use the button on the dash to start it, key fob not detected, remote start again, kill it with button, then restart it with button and it works again......every single time by the way...that happens, ....poor streaming while using BT, can't get the garage door opener to sync...... and ya, thats like all t he problems ive had....I can't believe everyone else is having such issues...
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I really don't know what your talking about I have not been patronizing at all. I just asked if you had driven another one, but your response here explains everything about you. I bet your dealer just loves seeing you coming. At a thousand miles your nowhere near the warranty running out so I'm not really sure what your worry is there. In case you didn't know the 8 speed is the same ZF unit that BMW uses just so you know.
Just a minor note....

This is only true when you speak of the V8 or the Diesel. The V6 uses a Chrysler built version of a lighter duty transmission.
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I have the same experiences: not very pleasant! That is what I am trying to show the dealers. If it is all just a software issue, then yes I hope there will be an update. However, I hope it will be shorter than it took them for the 11-13s.

I like the eco mode because I think I do notice a difference in gas mileage; however, I don't like how long it holds some of the speeds. Yet, I have a problem with the jerkiness in and out of eco mode. Is that the same for you?
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The condition is not at all compatible. The V6 Jeeps run a totally different transmission and the V8s are a different final drive ratio. Yes part of that final drag is compression (also not comparable as yours is diesel).

You have an interesting concern though.... none of us in North America will be able to compare for a while. My ML320 had a couple of hard shift points but they did update it and it was better.
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Just a minor note....

This is only true when you speak of the V8 or the Diesel. The V6 uses a Chrysler built version of a lighter duty transmission.
Chrysler built and ZF designed, correct?

There's no telling if Chrysler cheapened up a part or two in order to cut costs. I still think any/all problems are software related, but you never know. Saving $5 per transmission on this many vehicles is big dollars.
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hmmm, am I the only one not experience mechanical issues with their 2014 Overland???? so far so good 700 miles.....not any major hickups, just a couple minor things t hat I already found fixes to....

like when using remote start from inside the car, then hidding the brake, then trying to use the button on the dash to start it, key fob not detected, remote start again, kill it with button, then restart it with button and it works again......every single time by the way...that happens, ....poor streaming while using BT, can't get the garage door opener to sync...... and ya, thats like all t he problems ive had....I can't believe everyone else is having such issues...
7,500 trouble free miles. Minor transmission shift issues, but battery pull fixed that.
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like when using remote start from inside the car, then hidding the brake, then trying to use the button on the dash to start it, key fob not detected, remote start again, kill it with button, then restart it with button and it works again......every single time by the way...that happens, ....poor streaming while using BT, can't get the garage door opener to sync...... and ya, thats like all t he problems ive had....I can't believe everyone else is having such issues...
Remote start will not work from inside the vehicle, why would anyone do this?? The vehicle does fob validation on entry so after remote start (hence remote not fob start) there still needs to be "entry".
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I bought a Jeep because 1) the reviews, and 2) because I wanted off road utility. I honestly knew I was going to take a hit in some reliability or service, but didn't think it was going to be this bad.

You are right, IF it is a software issue, replacing it now won't help. However, like I indicated on my last post, there is no guarantee it is JUST a software issue.

We can get into Ford and their decision to keep putting the same transmission year after year without fixing it, but that would be for a different forum, and not my point.

I hope it doesn't take a year for Jeep to get a flash update for the transmission. It better not because there is a difference between a cheap fusion and a 50k Grand Cherokee Overland. The problem is that Jeep is acting like Ford at this point rather than taking responsibility. That's the real truth and the bottom line, and you can't argue your way around that point.
You've mentioned at least a half a dozen times that you dropped $50k on this vehicle. Spend $1,600 more and warranty yourself until 100k miles, or $2,100 for the rest of your life, then take a deep breath, relax and enjoy....
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Chrysler built and ZF designed, correct?

There's no telling if Chrysler cheapened up a part or two in order to cut costs. I still think any/all problems are software related, but you never know. Saving $5 per transmission on this many vehicles is big dollars.
To date transmission replacements have been for mechanical problems. Those people have reported the new transmission was good, no software was changed.

Edit: not a part problem but seems to have been a manufacturing issue.
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Bretto,

Yeah I feel ya. I know. When I am surrounded by cars and it jerks all the time, it is embarrassing. I feel as though people are laughing at me etc, which I shouldn't be put in that situation.
In reality there are probably more people laughing at your posts than are laughing about the way your car runs. The situation you find yourself in is most likely only in your mind.

Based on the tone and number of posts you made about the same thing, I'd say you like drawing attention to yourself.

Just an observation, and the internet is a good outlet for any frustrations your Jeep is giving you.


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What I don't get is comparing two completely different drive lines. Different engines and transmissions made by different people with different software.

It might as well be a comparison between 2 different cars.

Anyway, point is, same as my other posts.... not everyone has the same problem. Similar symptoms do not equal same problem. Sometimes they do but in this case it is nearly impossible, the CRD even has a different rear end! So from the front of the air intake to the end of the tail pipe those two trucks being compared aren't even similar.

Bill, how does your V6 transmission serve you?
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Bretto,

The condition is not at all compatible. The V6 Jeeps run a totally different transmission and the V8s are a different final drive ratio. Yes part of that final drag is compression (also not comparable as yours is diesel).

You have an interesting concern though.... none of us in North America will be able to compare for a while. My ML320 had a couple of hard shift points but they did update it and it was better.
I did think they were different but thought I would share my one little concern.

I'm confident it will be addressed and as I said other than this I love it! It's smooth, sharp, responsive and very decisive in knowing where it should be at any given time (apart from that bloody 2nd to 1st downshift lol)
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