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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

My take:

The shifter is confusing and I can see how someone can mess it up.

I have been driving for a while now and know how to use a shifter but my Jeep did this to me once, I put the shifter all the way up, didnt look down because I knew by muscle memory that it was in park (so I thought). I start to get out and the Jeep is rolling back. It almost hit the garage wall but I saved it in time because I was not out of the vehicle.

I dont like the shifter and I miss the old shifter in my 2010 SRT Jeep. It was simple and worked. I didnt like the shifter ever since I rented a 300 a few years back (way before I got the 2015).

The software fix is a good one and I dont find it to be a big deal.

Then again everyone has a different opinion. lol

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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

CNN had a little more detail on the fix-
The software update will take a few hours to perform. After that the transmission will automatically shift to Park if the driver's side door is opened, the driver's seatbelt is unbuckled and the vehicle is stopped or moving slowly.

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There is a fix for the Jeep gear shift problem that killed actor Anton Yelchin. The problem is that most owners don't know it yet.
The problem is a confusing gear selector that could lead some drivers to believe that their vehicle is in Park when it isn't. A vehicle that isn't in Park can roll away and potentially injure or, in Yelchin's case, kill someone.
Weeks before Yelchin was killed Sunday, Fiat Chrysler had sent a written recall notice to owners warning them to make especially sure their cars are in Park before getting out of the vehicles. The notice also said they would get another letter later indicating when they could get their cars fixed.
Related: Jeep that killed 'Star Trek' actor Anton Yelchin was flagged for safety problems
As of the day Yelchin was killed, Fiat Chrysler had not yet announced a fix for the problem.
But the automaker had already started sending a software patch to its dealers to fix vehicles like Yelchin's last week. It had planned to mail notices to owners alerting them to the availability of the fix on Friday, June 24.
It's common practice for automakers to wait until it ships parts or distributes software to fix a recall problem before notifying owners. That way, dealers are prepared to handle a flood of customers.
The electronic gear selector in vehicles like Yelchin's return to the upright position after a driver selects Drive or Park. In other words, it doesn't remain in the position the driver moves it to for parking. At a glance, that could make it difficult to be sure the vehicle was actually in Park.
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The gear selector in the 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee can be confusing to use.
The fix is only available for vehicles with either a 3.6-liter V6 or 5.7-liter V8 engine. But the software may not be immediately available for every variation of those vehicles.
Software for vehicles with other engines will be available at a later date.
"The software rollout is ongoing for all models and model years," Fiat Chrysler spokesman Eric Mayne said. "Customers with concerns may call the number on their recall notices."
Related: Why car gear shifters are so confusing
The software update will take a few hours to perform. After that the transmission will automatically shift to Park if the driver's side door is opened, the driver's seatbelt is unbuckled and the vehicle is stopped or moving slowly.
The vehicles involved in the gear selector recall are model-year 2012-2014 Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300 sedans, and model-year 2014-2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs.
Owners are advised to park their vehicles carefully. Drivers should always look to make sure the transmission is in Park before taking their foot off the brake and getting out. Drivers should also apply the parking brake every time they park.
Later versions of these vehicles have gear selectors that are easier to use.
Owners with questions can call the Fiat Chrysler recall line at 800-853-1403 or contact their dealer.
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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

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CNN had a little more detail on the fix-
The software update will take a few hours to perform. After that the transmission will automatically shift to Park if the driver's side door is opened, the driver's seatbelt is unbuckled and the vehicle is stopped or moving slowly.
JUST CURIOUS............

Is the "fix" written such that ALL THREE of the above conditions are in place, or ANY of the above three conditions occur??

My point, is that MANY times, when backing into a "close" parking spot, I've opened the door, WHILE BACKING, in order to make sure I don't hit the curb, or any other obstacle that might be in close proximity to the vehicle.

If the vehicle automatically shifts itself into "park" while I'm doing this, "WTF" GOOD IS THAT????
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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

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JUST CURIOUS............

Is the "fix" written such that ALL THREE of the above conditions are in place, or ANY of the above three conditions occur??

My point, is that MANY times, when backing into a "close" parking spot, I've opened the door, WHILE BACKING, in order to make sure I don't hit the curb, or any other obstacle that might be in close proximity to the vehicle.

If the vehicle automatically shifts itself into "park" while I'm doing this, "WTF" GOOD IS THAT????
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JUST CURIOUS............

Is the "fix" written such that ALL THREE of the above conditions are in place, or ANY of the above three conditions occur??

My point, is that MANY times, when backing into a "close" parking spot, I've opened the door, WHILE BACKING, in order to make sure I don't hit the curb, or any other obstacle that might be in close proximity to the vehicle.

If the vehicle automatically shifts itself into "park" while I'm doing this, "WTF" GOOD IS THAT????
It means you can open door but leave seat belt connected and you will be fine.
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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

My RV had a safety feature I found kindda handy.

If your engine was running or not, gear was selected neutral and your foot was not on the brake pedal and hand brake was not set a chime went off.
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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

1.1 Million Jeep Grand Cherokee sold with the so-called confusing shifter and with 300 complaints from idiots who cant put their cars in park I may never be able to put my car through a car wash again.
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1.1 Million Jeep Grand Cherokee sold with the so-called confusing shifter and with 300 complaints from idiots who cant put their cars in park I may never be able to put my car through a car wash again.
That's a good point. How do you run it through a car wash where you must exit the vehicle prior to running it through.
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That's a good point. How do you run it through a car wash where you must exit the vehicle prior to running it through.
Wondering if fastening the seat belt around a pillow or a package might defeat this "feature."
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Re: Jeep recalling 1.1 million shifters

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1.1 Million Jeep Grand Cherokee sold with the so-called confusing shifter and with 300 complaints from idiots who cant put their cars in park I may never be able to put my car through a car wash again.
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That's a good point. How do you run it through a car wash where you must exit the vehicle prior to running it through.
This thread may interest you. I've had to sit in my GC in the carwash almost since it was new.
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1.1 Million Jeep Grand Cherokee sold with the so-called confusing shifter and with 300 complaints from idiots who cant put their cars in park I may never be able to put my car through a car wash again.

Yes, there are SOME people, who like yourself, claim to be so talented, that they'll NEVER screw up, and ALWAYS get their Jeeps into whatever gear they select.


Then there are MANY of us, who like myself, have been driving ALL SORTS of vehicles, for OVER 40 YEARS, and all concur that this shifter is FAR too unsure, in it's operation. WE have been able, WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK AT IT, shift gears every time, just fine.....


In other words, if the 50 year old, MILLIONS of units in service, mechanical shifter wasn't broken, why did some "electronic whizkid engineer" feel the need to fix it???
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Jeep owners sue Fiat Chrysler over defect suspected in 'Star Trek' actor's death - Jun. 23, 2016

Jeep Grand Cherokee owners are hitting Fiat Chrysler with a lawsuit over the design defect that is suspected in the death of "Star Trek" actor Anton Yelchin.
Consumer rights law firm Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLC filed the suit Thursday, claiming FCA "fraudulently concealed and failed to remedy a gear shifter design defect affecting 811,000 vehicles and linked to driverless rollaway incidents," the firm said in a press release.
Those vehicles include 2014-2015 Jeep Grand Cherokees, 2012-2014 Chrysler 300s and 2012-2014 Dodge Chargers, according to the release.
"In making these vehicles, Fiat Chrysler failed at adequately and responsibly designing one of the most basic safety features -- the gear shifter," said Steve Berman, managing partner of Hagens Berman.

More http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/23/news...fiat-chrysler/
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