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It's not the same because Chrysler didn't DECIDE to stop the engine if she runs out of gas. God did, and he's not available for service of process.
Are you a lawyer?
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Re: Keyless entry vulnerability

No, but I'm available for expert testimony
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Re: Keyless entry vulnerability

I have insurance....not worried about it.
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I have insurance....not worried about it.
True. However, that does you little good on the convenience scale when you're traveling out of town and are 1000+ miles from home. I've already rigged my JGC with a kill switch as I do with all my cars if I'm going to be parking for a length of time in a "target rich" environment like a mall or the airport. I don't want to reveal much detail, but it's my own private creation that kills electrical power instantly when switching out of Park if I didn't previously set multiple, hidden switches to the correct detent positions (like a combination lock); it's simple and effective.
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True. However, that does you little good on the convenience scale when you're traveling out of town and are 1000+ miles from home. I've already rigged my JGC with a kill switch as I do with all my cars if I'm going to be parking for a length of time in a "target rich" environment like a mall or the airport. I don't want to reveal much detail, but it's my own private creation that kills electrical power instantly when switching out of Park if I didn't previously set multiple, hidden switches to the correct detent positions (like a combination lock); it's simple and effective.
Nice! <grinning in admiration>
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Re: Keyless entry vulnerability

with my lexus which has keyless fob ive gone to the car wash and left without the fob on me. had to drive back an hour later to get it. if i had turned off the car without realizing i would have been screwed. kind of off topic but figured id mention it. make sure you dont make my mistake
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I'm far enough from my car right now that the bad guy following me would need a ton of power to make this work. And I think I'd notice being followed by a guy pulling a little red wagon full of car batteries.
You would not need a wagon. The keyless enter is designed to only work within 5 ft but keep in mind that the remote start works fromthat same little fobfor over 300ft. i.e. it does not take that much power to communitcate with the Jeep. A transmitter the size of a pack of cigs could work from well over 500 ft. As long as "bad guy 1" is within 5 ft of the Jeep "Bad Guy 2" could be far away.
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You would not need a wagon. The keyless enter is designed to only work within 5 ft but keep in mind that the remote start works fromthat same little fobfor over 300ft. i.e. it does not take that much power to communitcate with the Jeep. A transmitter the size of a pack of cigs could work from well over 500 ft. As long as "bad guy 1" is within 5 ft of the Jeep "Bad Guy 2" could be far away.

Yes, but when I wrote this I was 45 miles from my truck. I don't think a 9 volt battery is going to cut that mustard.
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True. However, that does you little good on the convenience scale when you're traveling out of town and are 1000+ miles from home. I've already rigged my JGC with a kill switch as I do with all my cars if I'm going to be parking for a length of time in a "target rich" environment like a mall or the airport. I don't want to reveal much detail, but it's my own private creation that kills electrical power instantly when switching out of Park if I didn't previously set multiple, hidden switches to the correct detent positions (like a combination lock); it's simple and effective.
If this won't give away too much - are there any similar commercial kill switches that can be purchased?
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Yes, but when I wrote this I was 45 miles from my truck. I don't think a 9 volt battery is going to cut that mustard.
Ya, thats a bit far (until someone "thinks" they can send it over a cell phone). Remeber that scam?
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I've already rigged my JGC with a kill switch as I do with all my cars if I'm going to be parking for a length of time in a "target rich" environment like a mall or the airport. I don't want to reveal much detail, but it's my own private creation that kills electrical power instantly when switching out of Park if I didn't previously set multiple, hidden switches to the correct detent positions (like a combination lock); it's simple and effective.
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The possibility of thieves spending time and effort to do this successfully is remote; much faster/easier to just tow the target vehicle away.
So why bother with a hidden kill switch when thieves know it's faster/easier to just tow the vehicle away?
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So why bother with a hidden kill switch when thieves know it's faster/easier to just tow the vehicle away?
Because he's not assuming that only the most brilliant and well-equipped thieves will try to jack his vehicle? Because he wants and can afford to employ various and redundant levels of deterrence? There are a lot of reasons why an owner would plan against a variety of threats and not just one. His comment about getting towed away does nothing to negate that logic.
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