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Lift Points and Bracket Damage

My 2015 Summit was recently at the dealer to get a suspension noise addressed. Apparently when the dealer put it up on the lift, they placed the pads of the front arms on the cradle brackets (item 4 in the photo) and bent each about 1/8 to 1/4 inch up into the undercarriage.

Does anyone know if these brackets are tied into the alignment or are that sensitive to damage that I should be concerned? Of course it is frustrating to get your Jeep back in worse condition than when it went in, but Iím trying to be reasonable about this situationóplus any visit to get something fixed seems to result in something new being damaged.

Also, does anyone know where the factory service manual suggests the front/rear lift pads be placed on a 2015? I can clearly see the welded in boxes in the rear, but the front location isnít so obvious to me. I assume the lift points are different than the floor/scissor jack locations (identified by those triangles on the rocker panels).

Yet another adventure at the dealer!

Thanks for any input.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:03 PM
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Re: Lift Points and Bracket Damage

Is there squeaking from the front end now? I bent these in a similar fashion doing my first wheel swap. The noise over small bumps, braking to a rest and entering driveways was virtually non-stop.

I don't think that they affect alignment, but they probably need to be replaced for your continued sanity.

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Re: Lift Points and Bracket Damage

I'm not sure about the Summit rocker panels but on the Overland they have small inverted triangles molded into the plastic to indicate the location of the jacking/lift points underneath.
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lifted from wk2jeeps.com:

doh! try this
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A square?
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Is there squeaking from the front end now? I bent these in a similar fashion doing my first wheel swap. The noise over small bumps, braking to a rest and entering driveways was virtually non-stop.

I don't think that they affect alignment, but they probably need to be replaced for your continued sanity.

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Thanks for the input. No squeaking yet. And, it seems to drive okay. Did you end up replacing yours? I will probably end up gambling with another visit to the dealer.
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Did you end up replacing yours?
Yeah I had to go to the dealer with my tail between my legs. Cost something like $450, which was the Aussie cost for the parts. They're probably twenty bucks in the US...
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lifted from wk2jeeps.com:

doh! try this
That's great info, thanks! I wonder if the front pads on the lift have something to adapt for the pinch weld? Now I'm concerned that the dealer used the gas tank skids to lift because the welded - in brackets in the back look pristine. Geeze.
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That's great info, thanks! I wonder if the front pads on the lift have something to adapt for the pinch weld? Now I'm concerned that the dealer used the gas tank skids to lift because the welded - in brackets in the back look pristine. Geeze.
There should b since we have (should that is) to use them to not crush that....
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Re: Lift Points and Bracket Damage

I gotta ask... and it will sound dumb.........

Can anyone post an image of the setup for the front @ the pinch weld? a Pic of the position of the lift pads..

I've seen the cut hockey pucks, and slotted boards, and the adapters for two post lifts with a gap ..

but is the actual lift point ON the edge of the pinch weld or at the 'top' of the surface where the vertical surface meets the rocker panel and floor?

I've looked at the posted PDF and have seen the molded in 'arrows' but just do not know where to put the lift pad on the front...

i've got a bend-pak two post but I just can't figure it out... and when i roll under, i see 'better' places to lift at the front end.. (i think)
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Re: Lift Points and Bracket Damage

Surprisingly, the jacking point is on the edge of the seam. I thought I knew better, but didn't

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Re: Lift Points and Bracket Damage

As an update, my wife took it back to the dealer, but the service manager said he could not see the damage and that the brackets come pre-bent! And, as icing on the cake, they managed to clip and damage one of the gas tank skids with the lift arm--I realize skids are for bashing, but not by the dealer, especially while investigating other damage caused by the same lift! Now I get to make a trip out to have a discussion with the service manager. Really makes me second guess having nice things....
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