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Re: Oil dip stick

How did this get on the subject of oil changes and break in oil.

This is a serious question about the dip stick lenght and which is correct, the manual or the dip stick. This could cause serious mechanical issues if the crank case is overfilled or underfilled.

As i originally stated i changed the oil, put in the recommended 7 qts per the owners manual and the dip stick is reading one qt. Low.

My question is:
Is the dip stick incorrect, the dealer confirmed its the correct one for my engine/vechicle but its reading one qt low after the correct amount of oil is added with the correct size oil filter. If the dip stick is right, then i need to add another qt, which makes 8 qts.

If the manual is correct then jeep needs to issue a recall and have the correct lengh dip stick installed before owners unknowly overfill the crankcase.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:20 PM
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Re: Oil dip stick

I don't blame you for your concern, sounds like a real conundrum. I would give Chrysler a call and see what they say.
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Sorry to participate in the break-in oil thread hijack. So I did some reading. The Hemi 5.7 oil capacity dip stick issue is very common. There is no definitive single answer.

It seems that the Hemi retains a significant amount of oil in the heads and takes quite a while to drain down into the pan. Many have noted that draining the oil and immediately reinstalling the drain plug leaves some undrained oil in the upper portions of the motor. When they add the factory specified amount, the reading is within min/max on the stick. Perhaps Chrysler knows this and specifies the capacity for the typical quick drain scenario.

I would check the oil after parking overnight to allow drain back and add as needed. If you allow more drain time on changes, add additional oil as needed assuming your dipstick is the correct one for your motor.

It seems the bottom line is that "quick oil change refill capacity" and "crankcase capacity" may be two different specs.

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Re: Oil dip stick

Nobody has mentioned oil in the oil filter nor draining hot or cold. These are old old issues. Just change the oil as per the manual and keep it topped up to the full line on the dip-stick and forget the quantity stated in the back of the book. It's a nominal figure for guidance only.
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Re: Oil dip stick

I always try to drain the oil after the engine has been running for a few minutes. Given I usually always burn myself a little bit, but the oil thins up a little bit and seems to drain better, which in my mind, means I'm getting more of the "bad oil out" to make room for more "good oil."

As someone suggested, try checking the oil with the engine both hot and cold and see the difference in the stick, it could, as some said, simply be a matter of the oil that the rest of the engine is still holding creating a false low reading on the dip stick.

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How did this get on the subject of oil changes and break in oil.

This is a serious question about the dip stick lenght and which is correct, the manual or the dip stick. This could cause serious mechanical issues if the crank case is overfilled or underfilled.

As i originally stated i changed the oil, put in the recommended 7 qts per the owners manual and the dip stick is reading one qt. Low.

My question is:
Is the dip stick incorrect, the dealer confirmed its the correct one for my engine/vechicle but its reading one qt low after the correct amount of oil is added with the correct size oil filter. If the dip stick is right, then i need to add another qt, which makes 8 qts.

If the manual is correct then jeep needs to issue a recall and have the correct lengh dip stick installed before owners unknowly overfill the crankcase.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
I agree with you I find this bizarre as well it takes 7.75 qt to take mine to the full line(not over the full line), full is not overfilled. running the engine after a change and letting it sit over night in flat garage and its 7.75 for oil to the full line. I am with you I am not comfortable with running the engine on add a quart right after an oil change. the engine is naturally going to use a little over the next 5k -10k miles or when ever someone does their oil change say you may use 1/2- 1 quart that means you could potentially be running around up to 1.5 - 2 quarts low towards the end before your next oil change, that doesn't sound good to me I'll just add the extra .75 qt
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I got on that subject because you mentioned changing your oil in your opening post................


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I agree with you I find this bizarre as well it takes 7.75 qt to take mine to the full line(not over the full line), full is not overfilled. running the engine after a change and letting it sit over night in flat garage and its 7.75 for oil to the full line. I am with you I am not comfortable with running the engine on add a quart right after an oil change. the engine is naturally going to use a little over the next 5k -10k miles or when ever someone does their oil change say you may use 1/2- 1 quart that means you could potentially be running around up to 1.5 - 2 quarts low towards the end before your next oil change, that doesn't sound good to me I'll just add the extra .75 qt
I've check the oil warm and cold and even waited overnight and the oil level is the same. I quess I'm going to add a little more oil and go by the dip stick.

I also called Chrysler and told them about the situation and informed them on my procedures for checking the oil.

I've actually had the engine make a tapping sound on 2 different occassions when starting the engine. Its just like changing the oil and not filling up the oil filter first, you'd hear a tapping noise until the oil filled the filter and built up the correct amount of pressure.

Like I said I'm going to add the extra oil even though the dealership said not to and see if I still have this issue again.

I hope more people chime in on this issue and let me know what you have experienced.

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Re: Oil dip stick

I had the same dipstick experience in my '11 hemi. I do my own oil changes, and after some experimenting, settled on 7.5 qts for each change. This puts the level somewhere in the cross hatch area on the dipstick. On the average I change my oil every 1200-1500 miles (every six months per the manual).
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I had the same dipstick experience in my '11 hemi. I do my own oil changes, and after some experimenting, settled on 7.5 qts for each change. This puts the level somewhere in the cross hatch area on the dipstick. On the average I change my oil every 1200-1500 miles (every six months per the manual).
lol wow on the 1500 mile oil change, and i thought i was ocd!! lol
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lol wow on the 1500 mile oil change, and i thought i was ocd!! lol
I think he's changing it based on time (which is also important) rather than miles as he doesn't put that many on.
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On my old WJ I had i used to add Break in additive to oil changes! extra zinc and moly needed for the flat tappets!
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