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Re: Oil dip stick

I was one of the unlucky ones that had the smoke on startup issue. Chrysler finally changed my oil pan and windage tray that solved the issue. The problem with my dipstick happened when the dealer was overfilling because the dipstick was wrong. They kept putting in 8 qts. The new oil pan was deeper and the dipstick was not changed. The dealer contacted Chrysler and they said under no circumstances put in more than 7 qts. Since Chrysler refused to change the dipstick, I ground off the factory marks and made new ones on the back side of the dipstick to show the correct fill line. Bottom line....do not put more than 7 quarts, and make your own dipsick. Sure glad I spent 47k on this Jeep.
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Re: Oil dip stick

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It hurts the enviroment.
Changing oil at 5000 miles hurts the environment a lot less than driving one of these with the MPG and their carbon footprints.

If you are really that concerned about the environment, perhaps you should be driving a Prius.

I'll continue to change oil in all of my vehicles every 5000 miles, thank you.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:20 PM
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Changing oil at 5000 miles hurts the environment a lot less than driving one of these with the MPG and their carbon footprints.

If you are really that concerned about the environment, perhaps you should be driving a Prius.

I'll continue to change oil in all of my vehicles every 5000 miles, thank you.




Maybe you should be concerned about paying atttention to what your reading. I was referring to the op's oil change after 500 miles not 5000.

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Only put 500 more miles on her before I changed the oil again.

So try to keep up or go crawl back into your "post once every 2 years hole".
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Maybe you should be concerned about paying atttention to what your reading. I was referring to the op's oil change after 500 miles not 5000.




So try to keep up or go crawl back into your "post once every 2 years hole".
Not a hole I've been in for 2 years. I signed up when I was looking for a vehicle and saw the Cherokee on a dealers lot for the first time. I was very interested in one, but after reading numerous posts here about problems, I decided to not buy one. I still follow many of the posts to see if perhaps things have gotten better over all.

As for hurting the environment for changing the factory filled oil at 500 miles, more power to that owner. I usually do mine around 1500 miles or so for the first change.

I did do one around 500 miles once on a new truck I bought that was on the dealers lot for 8 months. I put about 500 miles on it and changed the oil.
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but after reading numerous posts here about problems, I decided to not buy one. I still follow many of the posts to see if perhaps things have gotten better over all.
If you go to forums to see if anyone is complaining about a particular vehicle before you buy one, I'm amazed your not riding the bus!
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If you go to forums to see if anyone is complaining about a particular vehicle before you buy one, I'm amazed your not riding the bus!
You must be easily amazed!

Every car or truck forum has complaints. Finding out about them before buying a particular brand or model by reading the forums is one tool in many to help base a decision on.

There were too many and many different owner's with the same complaints that swayed me away from this model at the time.
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Not a hole I've been in for 2 years. I signed up when I was looking for a vehicle and saw the Cherokee on a dealers lot for the first time. I was very interested in one, but after reading numerous posts here about problems, I decided to not buy one. I still follow many of the posts to see if perhaps things have gotten better over all.

As for hurting the environment for changing the factory filled oil at 500 miles, more power to that owner. I usually do mine around 1500 miles or so for the first change.

I did do one around 500 miles once on a new truck I bought that was on the dealers lot for 8 months. I put about 500 miles on it and changed the oil.
Your in the wrong forum.........this is Grand Cherokees WK2's.
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If you go to forums to see if anyone is complaining about a particular vehicle before you buy one, I'm amazed your not riding the bus!
Haha...I believe you. And he's probably telling the driver the oil needs to be changed. Haha
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You must be easily amazed!

Every car or truck forum has complaints. Finding out about them before buying a particular brand or model by reading the forums is one tool in many to help base a decision on.

There were too many and many different owner's with the same complaints that swayed me away from this model at the time.
If you use that as a tool then you might be tool. Not many owners post about having no problems. Everyone complains when their having problems. I'm sure there are a lot more satisfied owners then there are unsatisfied. You'll have to research that in the Cherokee forum though.
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I think he's changing it based on time (which is also important) rather than miles as he doesn't put that many on.
I'm not so sure if time is important. I don't know what there is that needs maintenance every 6 months. Engine oil has a commercial shelf-life of 2 years but an actual self-life of 20+ years. I suspect the time thing is more a marketing ploy. I only ever go on kms travelled. The Jeep is supposed to have a condition based maintenance warning system. I'd like to use this but I need to know more about it. In industry, condition based maintenance has always been shown to be far superior. The great thing about it is that it reduces maintenance induced failures which is a big this these days particularly with the incompetent dealers we seem to have. Sorry to stray from the topic.
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I'm not so sure if time is important. I don't know what there is that needs maintenance every 6 months. Engine oil has a commercial shelf-life of 2 years but an actual self-life of 20+ years. I suspect the time thing is more a marketing ploy. I only ever go on kms travelled. The Jeep is supposed to have a condition based maintenance warning system. I'd like to use this but I need to know more about it. In industry, condition based maintenance has always been shown to be far superior. The great thing about it is that it reduces maintenance induced failures which is a big this these days particularly with the incompetent dealers we seem to have. Sorry to stray from the topic.
Most vehicles use some formula based on the number of starts, number of revolutions, etc. They don't analyze the oil, so can't account for excessively dusty conditions or moisture from condensation. Unlike oil on a shelf, oil in an engine is exposed to its environment including constant change in temperature. I think that is why a once a year oil change regardless of mileage or the EVIC is a good rule of thumb.


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Not sure about the gasoline motors but I had an experience with my new JGC CRD. On its first outing towing a 2t caravan, I noticed one morning that the oil measured low on the dipstick. I added a litre and checked again two mornings later. Showed at minimum once more. Added another litre. On the third morning it again showed low on the dipstick. Only then did I resort to reading the Owners Manual and learnt that I should only check the oil level AFTER the motor had reached operating temperature.

I did so and the oil level was dangerously over full. I had 2 liters of oil drained and checked the oil. It now registered on the full mark and has done so for the last 8,000k with no change to oil level. My problem related to the requirement to run the engine to operating temperature in order to get correct reading.
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