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Old 03-03-2012, 01:28 AM
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Angry Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

I hate for something like this to be my second post... A little pissed about it as well....

My 2012 WK2 3.6 V6 is leaking oil, my old man saw some spots on the driveway, figured it was from one of the older cars. Informed me that only the new one has been in that direct spot.

So I get home from my shop at 10:30 tonight, grab some cardboard, a flash light, and slide underneath it in this sh*t weather we are having right now on the Island.

During inspection, I see oil coming from where the engine meets up @ the transmission.

Yah....


Going upwards on both sides (the mate point between engine and tranny) I can see seepage spreading directly from the seem.

Now im thinking Somthing along the lines of a rear main seal... Only way oil can get on the side of the housing like that is if its being flung by a flywheel, or well that's the most common thing Ive seen. It also looks like the aluminum casting seems cracked by looking at the pictures.

Figured Id post up the pics I took while under the truck.. I would like some input from other members that are techs @ dealers.

Going to the dealer in 7 hours to have them rack it up, and inspect it. and If its the seal, im expecting to do an even swap for another WK2 (its f**king 2 days old...) No way in hell am I taking it back if this is the case. 4-6 Hour book time job. If im not mistaken, i got 3 days in New York to process a swap.


Oh and for reference: Testing and Inspection on the subject matter.
Source: Alldata 10.40

Crankshaft Main Bearing Seal: Testing and Inspection
REAR SEAL AREA LEAKS
Since it is sometimes difficult to determine the source of an oil leak in the rear seal area of the engine, a more involved inspection is necessary. The
following steps should be followed to help pinpoint the source of the leak.
If the leakage occurs at the crankshaft rear oil seal area:
1. Disconnect the battery.
2. Raise the vehicle.
3. Remove torque converter or clutch housing cover and inspect rear of block for evidence of oil. Use a black light to check for the oil leak:
a. Circular spray pattern generally indicates seal leakage or crankshaft damage.
b. Where leakage tends to run straight down, possible causes are a porous block, oil galley pipe plugs, oil filter runoff, and main bearing cap to
cylinder block mating surfaces. See Engine, for proper repair procedures of these items.
4. If no leaks are detected, pressurized the crankcase as outlined in the section, Inspection (Engine oil Leaks in general)
CAUTION: Do not exceed 20.6 kPa (3 psi).
5. If the leak is not detected, very slowly turn the crankshaft and watch for leakage. If a leak is detected between the crankshaft and seal while
slowly turning the crankshaft, it is possible the crankshaft seal surface is damaged. The seal area on the crankshaft could have minor nicks or
scratches that can be polished out with emery cloth.

CAUTION: Use extreme caution when crankshaft polishing is necessary to remove minor nicks or scratches. The crankshaft seal flange
is specially machined to complement the function of the rear oil seal.
6. For bubbles that remain steady with shaft rotation, no further inspection can be done until disassembled. Refer to appropriate testing., under the
Oil Leak row, for components inspections on possible causes and corrections.
7. After the oil leak root cause and appropriate corrective action have been identified, See: Service and Repair/Removal.




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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

I had the same problem on a Ford Explorer with the rear main seal. They had to pull the entire engine. Guess what----twice. The problem was that during the first assembly it was "mated" too quickly and the sealant/seal between the two never sealed. The second time at the dealer repair was the same issue---too fast before the cure.

Maybe things and methods are different now.

In any case I was a wreck during the process. I came very close to getting a replacement vehicle, working my way to the Ford regional manager. But, I wasn't persuasive enough I guess. Amazingly, the vehicle ran fine afterwards.

Sorry to hear about yours. I wish you well.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

I would settle for nothing less than an even swap.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Good luck on the swap, may have to get an attorney involved. Had a relative who brought in a toyota truck for its first oil change a few years ago at the toyota dealership. The guy changing the oil put the new filter on and oil plug but putting oil in slipped his mind. Relative got a few miles down the road and engine seized up. Toyota replaced the engine but would not give her a new truck but she didn't press the issue enough. Hopefully with yours being a few days old you will have better luck.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

law says, you have to let them get a go at the repair first.

also that torque converter housing seems to have a lot of casting defects and the seepage is around that area?
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Most dealers I deal with have like a 3 day window for satisfaction issues. On my way down there now. I'll keep you guys updated
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Just had them rack it up and check it out. They leaned toward it being a rear main seal. They put me in a loaner for the time being. Sound like they want to.get tech line involved for correct diagnosis.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Good Luck, all will be ok in the end.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

That casing doesn't seem to look right. A lot of thin lines all over, maybe manufactures defect?
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

I had the very same problem, detected with no more than 300 miles on my WK2 2012. I took it to the dealer and they replaced the transmission cover or housing, whatever the name is. It is perfect now, but, when it was at the dealer for five days I was regretting my purchase.
Bottom line is, it will be fixed. Good luck
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Could it be cosmoline? My Audi TT was pissing like that for a couple of weeks when new.
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Re: Oil leak, 3 days old, less than 200 miles!!! PICS!!!

Jcort. Could you please pm me a part #s off the repair order? I would really appreciate it
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