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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 with Mobile1 SAE 5W20

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AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil is excellent for use in all types of gasoline-fueled vehicles. It is recommended for all domestic and foreign vehicles requiring any of the listed performance specifications:

5W-20 (ALM): API SN (Resource Conserving), SM… ILSAC GF-5, GF-4… ACEA A1/B1; Ford WSS-M2C945-A, WSS-M2C930-A; Chrysler MS-6395; GM dexos1™ (supersedes 6094M) Fortified with detergents that exceed dexos1™ sulfated ash specifications.

The wording is confusing -- and on purpose. That doesn't mean it "meets" all these specs. It's recommended for any that state those specs. Read on BITOG, or ask Amsoil. It may meet Chrysler's and Ford's spec, but is a "replacement" for GM's dexos1? Even if it "meets" Chrsylers spec, it's a mute point. Signature Series is not API certified. Once again, it only matters if you care about what your manual says, and if you have an oil-related failure, and if you are still under powertrain warranty. Otherwise, it's probably one of the best oils available.

There's some good reading further down in this thread (yes -- I realize it's 3 yrs old, but the same applies today):

AMSOIL - Signature Series 5W-20 Synthetic | Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Cars/Pickups/Vans/SUVs | Bob Is The Oil Guy

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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 with Mobile1 SAE 5W20

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The wording is confusing -- and on purpose. That doesn't mean it "meets" all these specs. It's recommended for any that state those specs. Read on BITOG, or ask Amsoil. It may meet Chrysler's and Ford's spec, but is a "replacement" for GM's dexos1? Even if it "meets" Chrsylers spec, it's a mute point. Signature Series is not API certified. Once again, it only matters if you care about what your manual says, and if you have an oil-related failure, and if you are still under powertrain warranty. Otherwise, it's probably one of the best oils available.

There's some good reading further down in this thread (yes -- I realize it's 3 yrs old, but the same applies today):

AMSOIL - Signature Series 5W-20 Synthetic | Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Cars/Pickups/Vans/SUVs | Bob Is The Oil Guy
This is why there are not API certified. I think it's the best oil out there and I'm going to continue to use it. If I ever have a problem and the dealer refuses to fix it will have a war... Thanks for the link.


When it comes to certifications....I've said this till I am blue in the face. Amsoil refuses to pay the API to certify Signature Series because they do not allow base stock substitutions on true synthetic lubricants. They do not want to be limited to one supplier, as this could potentially disrupt production. If they certify their lubricant using one manufacturers base stock, Amsoil would not be able to switch suppliers without re-certifying the lubricant over again. This is very expensive, and not fair since it is tolerated in the petroleum side of the market. Amsoil SS line exceeds API SN specs by far, but since the API is biased on petroleum base stocks, it's not a fair game for PAO and Esters. Not on the financial side of the equation.
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 with Mobile1 SAE 5W20

^ ....and if it were certified, they'd want another $5/qt.
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 with Mobile1 SAE 5W20

I don't know about you, but I personally buy the least expensive FULL SYNTHETIC oil rated for my 2014 GC (currently Mobil 1), and use Mopar oil filters (3 for $16 on ebay) since I change my oil every 5,000 miles in my daily driven commuter...that has yet towed anything.

I also waited until 5,000 miles to perform my first oil change to ensure a proper seating of the rings before switching to synthetic.
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Re: Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 with Mobile1 SAE 5W20

I buy my Mopar oil filters at the dealer. There under 6 bucks a peice.
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