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Re: Power Lift Gate

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Most of the garages around my area are plenty high for opening the lift gates. I could park my lifted ram in my garage no problem. Just checked and I have a 8' door and 15' ceiling.
A modern standard 2 car garage door is 7' x 16' with a 6' 10" opening and the standard garage has at least an 8' ceiling. If done right the door should be at least 7' 4" off the ground, not counting any bracing that would lower the effective height.

Neither my Touareg or Trailbazer hit, they had at least 6" of clearance.

An 15' ceiling! That's no where close to a standard garage. It sounds more like an airplane hanger.....
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Re: Power Lift Gate

When I had my garage door openers replaced recently, the installer pointed out something to me that is obvious now. He said that the inner vertical clearance is dictated by the arc in the track of your door opener setup. The wider that arc, the higher and further out of the way your door lifts. We had this discussion as he was telling me how some customers turn a 3-car garage into 6-car garage through the use of lifts. This of course requires each garage door to be able to open in such a way that it hugs the ceiling, so he installs the wider arcs. It's also easier on the opener motor as a wider arc causes less resistance when opening.

So the point is that if someone can get into their fixed opening but has a garage door that, when opened, is a bit too low to accommodate an open liftgate, there is a way to retrofit a door to make it lift higher.

Agree that 15' ceiling is massive. Mine is 11' and I thought it was pretty good but it is mere chump change.
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Re: Power Lift Gate

When I built my detached garage/workshop we did a 12' ceiling to allow for a lift in the future. I put in an 8' x 18' door with a 3' raised track and a jackshaft opener. That pushes the door to 11' clearance that only protrudes 5' back into the garage. The jackshaft opener means there's nothing above the door attached to the roof so I have the entire 12' available. I've seen garages with tall ceilings due to the way the house is designed but they used a standard door track so the door is hanging 6' below the ceiling when it's open, looks pretty stupid!

This isn't my door but it's exactly how it's set up.

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I was wondering does anybody think it would be possible to add power lift gate to a 2011 limited jeep GC. I assume buying a motor and installing it and a new key fob . I assume the Wiring should be all ready to go what are your thoughts .
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I did the same and I feel the same as you. I want to add Adaptive Speed Control (which I dont have for sure) and "Blind Spot Monitoring and Rear Cross Path Detection" which I am not sure if I have it in my Overland.

If you get the list for those options, please let me know. I am interested and I do hope the wiring is there already for at least the Adaptive Speed Control
The images below were compiled from various sections of the Mopar Parts website. They are no way all-inclusive but they will at least give an idea of the associated part costs to add certain factory options to exsiting WK2s. Labor costs would be certainly be addtional.

Image 1 - Power Rear Liftgate Parts & Wiring ($445+)
Image 2 - Key fob required to operate the Power Liftagte (No Price, but you can see the option to add Remote Start - for those without - is $259)
Image 3 - The Adaptive Cruise Control ($133 for just the bracket)

I couldn't find any parts for the Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM), Forward Collision Warning (FCW) or Rear Cross-Path Detection; they may not be available yet.

The parts on the website that have no price next to them are unavailable or out of stock. When Mopar resumes making OEM replacement parts they will show up with a price.

From what I have been finding, I wouldn't assume that the WK2s are pre-wired for everything and simply not hooked up. Hopefully I am wrong because that will get expensive to replace the entire wiring harness. I am hoping pigtail add-ons are used to add features the existing system.

The Parts dealer sent me an e-mail yesterday and he is working to confirm that the parts I would like are the proper ones for my Limited. Again, I asked him for ALL of the parts required to achieve the LUX2 package in a Limited; including new seats. Probably will not purchase and install the ventilated seat but at least I will have the required part numbers.

p.s. - My home came with a 13' garage height, its a 2-car width. I plan to add storage above the Garage door which when open is about 8' from the floor.
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Re: Power Lift Gate

Thanks Mhassler.

I will have to dig a bit deeper and see what I can find out. I really want that option but if the wiring is not there, then I cant add it no matter the rest.

I do believe that Jeep have one part number for the wiring harness (unless they divided the wiring harness for the ACC) so it might have it. Having several wiring part numbers for different options makes the assembly a lot more problematic so I bet the wiring is there. (My opinion and based on my experience in mfg)
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Thanks Mhassler.

I will have to dig a bit deeper and see what I can find out. I really want that option but if the wiring is not there, then I cant add it no matter the rest.

I do believe that Jeep have one part number for the wiring harness (unless they divided the wiring harness for the ACC) so it might have it. Having several wiring part numbers for different options makes the assembly a lot more problematic so I bet the wiring is there. (My opinion and based on my experience in mfg)
I believe the main wiring is there for you to tap into, however, I doubt that the wiring is run from the main-hub to the steering wheel or that there is an extra wire behind the grille just hoping and waiting to be attached to an ACC sensor.

But I too agree, strictly from a sound mfg perspective, the main brains of the system should be in place.
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And then you will need to add the buttons on the steering wheel......and then also hope that the drivers information center in the middle of the gauges is programed for it.....
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^^^ exactly what PMD G8 said thats another thing as well.

Wow you guys are still talking about adding these options. I tried saying it would be too complex. There is soooooo much involved that it would be more reasonable to sell your current Grand Cherokee and buy an Overland with the feature installed from the factory. These are NOT plug and play systems.
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^^^ exactly what PMD G8 said thats another thing as well.

Wow you guys are still talking about adding these options. I tried saying it would be too complex. There is soooooo much involved that it would be more reasonable to sell your current Grand Cherokee and buy an Overland with the feature installed from the factory. These are NOT plug and play systems.
Exactly.

You guys are wasting time just thinking about it. But hey, if you have nothing else better to do, have at it!
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And then you will need to add the buttons on the steering wheel......and then also hope that the drivers information center in the middle of the gauges is programed for it.....
For a Power Liftgate and HSW? I don't recall seeing either of these functions operated through steering wheel buttons or in the EVIC.

Now, the ACC, I believe would be much more involved, didn't say it wasn't possible though. I haven't been in a Jeep with this feature (and frankly I am not interested in it or the other Tech Package features) to see how it operates and its integration into the system. I am just trying to be helpful to someone by providing information.

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^^^ exactly what PMD G8 said thats another thing as well.

Wow you guys are still talking about adding these options. I tried saying it would be too complex. There is soooooo much involved that it would be more reasonable to sell your current Grand Cherokee and buy an Overland with the feature installed from the factory. These are NOT plug and play systems.
Yes, we are still looking at adding some of these options, I bet hundreds of people would be interested as well. Instead of telling us that it can't be done how about some hard data, such as the wiring schematics, showing that it is not possible. I am not concerned with whether or not its too expensive and involved. I want to know if it is possible. And, from what I have discoverd to date it is possible to add the features of the LUX2 package into a Limited. And, it is possible to buy the parts for the ACC.

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Exactly.

You guys are wasting time just thinking about it. But hey, if you have nothing else better to do, have at it!
Thanks for the positive thinking guys. You are really bringing a lot to the table by the way of information, idea & knowledge sharing.

If a bonafide Jeep Engineer provides me with concrete facts stating that it is not possible, then i'll stop pursuing it. Until then... game on.
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I say go for it, mhassler and others. I thought that was one of the major driving motivations behind modding-- to do what others didn't think was possible, or didn't make sense (to them). I think maybe these "naysayers" are just trying to encourage you through the use of reverse psychology.

Granted, some of us rookies consider it a mod when we throw in some OEM slushmats or add a ski rack. I for one would enjoy seeing true mods like yours come to life.

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I am thinking like mhassler.

I will like to learn what would it take. It might not be doable from a cash stand point, but the main question is what will it take?
I have heard so far the following:
1) Main wiring might be there, but the extra plugs to the front part might not
2) It mihgt require reprogramming of the Driver information center (not Known)
3) It will require the buttons to be added to the steering wheel. This might require a new set of buttons or add the two extra buttons tot he current part you have.
4) Dont really know if extra sensors are needed, this would include different side view mirrors for the signal and/or other sensors or signals

I have asked Jeep to see if I can the BOM for this and see what it will take. This option wasnt a cheap one to start with (added around $1200) to the price so I bet it will be very hard to add but I am just asking the questions.
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