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Old 09-13-2014, 11:10 AM
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Well i just had my steering rack replaced as well. Im a '14 with only 354 miles on the ODO. I did not have any moaning symptoms like on the 2011's, rather just fluid leaking on to my driveway, few drops every day causing the fluid level to drop below min on me. According to the dealer it was a "bad fitting on the rack that cannot be serviced, and the entire rack will need to be ordered and then installed."

Im besides myself that something this major had to be replaced with only 354 miles. My '08 WK didnt have a single problem until 63k when the water pump went on me, other than that nothing, it was smooth sailing the past 6 years.

Guess well see what happens over the next 354 miles, lol

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Old 09-13-2014, 12:08 PM
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Bought my 2011 GC in September 2010. Couple months later complained that I had to keep adding power steering fluid every week. Dealer looked at it and told me they needed to replace the rack and pinion. Only had a few thousand miles on it. Recommend keeping track of the fluid level. It should not ever go down unless there is a problem.
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

My 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee has a leak on the power steering rack. When changing my oil I noticed an oily residue on the bottom of the vehicle. I thought it may have been brake fluid or A/C oil since I had it in for the brake booster recall and an A/C compressor replacement for the awful noise that I get upon start up. Upon further investigation I noticed my power steering reservoir was on the min mark and I noticed the cap was just setting on top and not tightened down. I thoroughly inspected to make sure it did not splash out of the reservoir and then filled it to the max since it was on the min mark and put the lid on correctly. I am not sure how the cap got loose unless the dealer did it when it was last in. When investigating I noticed the leak is somewhere around where the steering column attaches. Not sure if it could be a line leaking or if it is a seal. So, I took it into the dealer to have it looked at. So far all they did was clean it and give it back saying they did not notice the leak. I have to take it back in again once the H Block comes in to fix the awful A/C noise since the compressor did not fix the issue and they are going to inspect the rack again. I am starting to get a little worried since I am almost to the end of my bumper to bumper warranty. I will post a follow up once I take it in again.
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Hmmm. I noticed mine was below min this weekend. I'll hunt around for leaks.


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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Not to bump this post again but felt no need to create a new thread on it. Noticed on my 2013 Overland the loss of power steering fluid. Had to fill it up this past summer. It was at Max and now is almost half gone. Going in to the Dealer on Feb 1st, seems it may have the same problem as the rest. Anyone else been having issues with it? I thought about if it is true to put a complaint in with the NHTSA. Looking on the net seems to show others with MY11 to MY13 are having the same issues and having to replace the whole steering rack (my assumptions is a poor vendor and manufacturing process).
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

I just went through this issue with my 2014 GC Summit. I was having to fill my PS reservoir about every 3 weeks , with no signs of leakage under the jeep on the floor. After reading this post I crawled under the jeep and took off the plastic skid plate for a better look around. I was also losing my coolant in the reservoir the same amount where every couple of weeks I had to fill it again , and also with no sign of leaks under the jeep.
When I took a good look under there with the plastic skid plate off I found both sides of the rack were leaking with the fluid going into the boots then slowly weeping out so they were just a little wet. This told me that the rack was bad and I took the jeep in while it is still under warranty for that and the issue of missing coolant.
The jeep dealer which I have been dealing with for 6 years and 3 different jeeps called me and said yes the rack was definitely bad and would need to be replaced , but they could find no issues to explain where the coolant was going. Then they hit me with a bombshell which really pissed me off. They came out and told me because I had a couple aftermarket parts on my jeep my warranty was void and nothing would be covered. They said ANY aftermarket part voids the jeep warranty. I was like what ?!?!?!
So I called FCA right away and asked them about this and there reply word for word was this 'An aftermarket part could void the warranty (on that part not the full warranty) IF it was PROVEN that the aftermarket part caused the failure'. This was their exact words to me and they even said they didn't know why the dealer was saying my warranty was now void. So after they filed a case number for me, they talked to the dealer and TOLD them it was warranty work so they rushed the part over and had it done by the next morning of course at no cost , and also customer care said they would follow up with me to verify everything was done correctly.
Needless to say , this kind of made me rethink my relationship with this dealer and it is time to find a new one.

So to anyone that is losing any amount of PS fluid , take the plastic skid plate off and look around under there at the rubber boots of your rack and if it is wet take it in and get it replaced while you have warranty.

Almost forgot they replaced the full rack , and did the alignment after also warranty covered. The job took 5 hours as per the book, although I thought it was 3 but maybe that was the older set up with the pulley.
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

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I just went through this issue with my 2014 GC Summit. I was having to fill my PS reservoir about every 3 weeks , with no signs of leakage under the jeep on the floor. After reading this post I crawled under the jeep and took off the plastic skid plate for a better look around. I was also losing my coolant in the reservoir the same amount where every couple of weeks I had to fill it again , and also with no sign of leaks under the jeep.
When I took a good look under there with the plastic skid plate off I found both sides of the rack were leaking with the fluid going into the boots then slowly weeping out so they were just a little wet. This told me that the rack was bad and I took the jeep in while it is still under warranty for that and the issue of missing coolant.
The jeep dealer which I have been dealing with for 6 years and 3 different jeeps called me and said yes the rack was definitely bad and would need to be replaced , but they could find no issues to explain where the coolant was going. Then they hit me with a bombshell which really pissed me off. They came out and told me because I had a couple aftermarket parts on my jeep my warranty was void and nothing would be covered. They said ANY aftermarket part voids the jeep warranty. I was like what ?!?!?!
So I called FCA right away and asked them about this and there reply word for word was this 'An aftermarket part could void the warranty (on that part not the full warranty) IF it was PROVEN that the aftermarket part caused the failure'. This was their exact words to me and they even said they didn't know why the dealer was saying my warranty was now void. So after they filed a case number for me, they talked to the dealer and TOLD them it was warranty work so they rushed the part over and had it done by the next morning of course at no cost , and also customer care said they would follow up with me to verify everything was done correctly.
Needless to say , this kind of made me rethink my relationship with this dealer and it is time to find a new one.

So to anyone that is losing any amount of PS fluid , take the plastic skid plate off and look around under there at the rubber boots of your rack and if it is wet take it in and get it replaced while you have warranty.

Almost forgot they replaced the full rack , and did the alignment after also warranty covered. The job took 5 hours as per the book, although I thought it was 3 but maybe that was the older set up with the pulley.
You are still missing coolant though right they never found that? maybe water pump? water pumps fail frequently on these 5.7s maybe its only loosing it under load and so you are not seeing any drip. check around the wp housing and see if you can see any evidence spray.
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

I was just outside with the jeep running for a while to get it up to temp and put a load on it , with white paper under the front end. I found no traces of leakage anywhere , no drips on the paper , no wet spots anywhere to be found. I can smell coolant though but no sign. The only trace I found , but not 100% sure it was coolant was when the skid plate was off , on the corner of the radiator passenger side had a slight wet spot. But that could have been from driving on wet roads and it was still wet in that spot. Right now it is still at the full mark after I filled it up again 2 days ago. It seems to be about every 3 weeks or so it gets back down to the min mark , but the radiator itself is still full when I check it.

I have checked for discolored oil, and white smoke but nothing there either so no signs of a headgasket. Right now I have 59,000 KM on the jeep so still have warranty , plus they said the coolant part is still on file since they found no signs of problems yet. I don't know if they just looked for leaks or if they did a pressure test as I wasn't around to monitor what they did.

The jeep is being driven local around town a couple days a week and into the city twice a month , so not a lot of miles being put on it yet the coolant is still dropping.I am thinking a possible slight crack in either the reservoir or the rad itself , or maybe even the slight possibility of the rad cap seal going and it is going out that way and then the reservoir is dropping?
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

my money is on the water pump lol. maybe a very small leak and no leak under normal driving but when pushed and the RPMs get up there it starts to dump a little each time it hits a certain pressure point. That's how the seals on these water pumps go they usually start out a small leak that continues to grow, which is good so it allows us to get them in with out being stranded. Just seen way way too may reports of water pump failures on the 5.7 and very few other cooling system issues. Good luck hope you can figure it out.
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Funny enough I today just noticed how low my Power Steering Fluid was and accidentally stumbled upon this thread just now. I have verified that my Jeep was unfortunately made between May - August. Additionally my Jeep is no longer covered under the original warranty.

Considering how expensive this fix is, est $1200, I figure it would be just cheaper to buy a couple of $8 bottles of steering fluid and just keep on refilling. Not the preferred option but the cheaper of the two.

I guess my question would be if there is any actual damage that PSF can do to the components of the car?
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

Looks like something I will have to check this coming weekend. I noticed that my PS fluid was extremely low this past weekend while doing maintenance.

Hopefully the rack is ok as I have a 2014 and 1300 miles past warranty. Power steering would not fall under the powertrain warranty, would it?
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Re: Power Steering Fluid Low? Check your rack and pinion for weeping

My '14 Summit Hemi had it's rack/pinion replaced at 20k and my '15 JGC SRT needed one very early too.....warranty!
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