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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

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IMO, if something is truly amiss, then it's not a systemic problem with the powertrain but a more isolated issue with a small number of vehicles.
See, and that's exactly what I am trying to find out here if the behaviour that my WK2 shows is an individual/isolated issue or if this is the way all 3.6l WK2 behaves
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

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If I want to get the engine on boil for passing, I just use the autostick lever to kick it down a gear or so manually so the engine is already spun up and ready to run before I push the pedal any more.
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Can you elaborate on that? I never had auto-manual transmission like that before. What if I kick 2 gears down and it will be too low for current speed? Can I damage the engine/transmission? At what speeds can/should I kick down 2 gears? What about kicking down 1 gear?
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:38 PM
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

Nothing you do will make the vehicle hurt itself. It has safety over-rides

Just experiment with it.... it's been covered in the forum many times
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

If you HOLD the gear lever to the left (instead of individual taps), it will shift down to the lowest gear for you without over-reving the engine.
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

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Can you elaborate on that? I never had auto-manual transmission like that before. What if I kick 2 gears down and it will be too low for current speed? Can I damage the engine/transmission? At what speeds can/should I kick down 2 gears? What about kicking down 1 gear?

If you look at the shift lever, at the bottom of the channel there are what looks to be raised bumps (they're hard to see properly). That is supposed to be a "-" on the left and a "+" on the right. Slap the shifter to the left to engage manual shifting mode. If you do it when stopped, it puts you in 1. While driving, it will force a kickdown to the next lower gear (as said, holding it to the left will put it into the lowest possible gear for your current speed). Then, as your speed builds, slap the lever to the right to upshift. Hold it to the right to go back to automatic shifting ("D").

I really only use this kind of thing when I need to pass- I kick it down a gear before I start building speed and pulling out so I don't have to wait for the computer to figure out what I want to do. On a two lane road, seconds count. Then, once I've completed the maneuver, I let the car shift for itself again.
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

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If you look at the shift lever, at the bottom of the channel there are what looks to be raised bumps (they're hard to see properly). That is supposed to be a "-" on the left and a "+" on the right. Slap the shifter to the left to engage manual shifting mode. If you do it when stopped, it puts you in 1. While driving, it will force a kickdown to the next lower gear (as said, holding it to the left will put it into the lowest possible gear for your current speed). Then, as your speed builds, slap the lever to the right to upshift. Hold it to the right to go back to automatic shifting ("D").

I really only use this kind of thing when I need to pass- I kick it down a gear before I start building speed and pulling out so I don't have to wait for the computer to figure out what I want to do. On a two lane road, seconds count. Then, once I've completed the maneuver, I let the car shift for itself again.
Do you find kicking down actually helps in passing or it is more of a psychological thing to let you think you are in control?

So after you passed you hold it to the right to switch to D again? Because if you just don't do anything it will not go back to "D" itself, correct?
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

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Do you find kicking down actually helps in passing or it is more of a psychological thing to let you think you are in control?

So after you passed you hold it to the right to switch to D again? Because if you just don't do anything it will not go back to "D" itself, correct?
Second question first: correct. I have not checked to see if it will still upshift at redline without user intervention; some of these systems will do that, some won't. I just don't bother, myself.

For the first question, yes it helps. I've used this system in the GC and also in my wife's Acura TL. By downshifting the transmission before initiating the passing maneuver, the engine has been spun up into its powerband and is more responsive (for "spinner" engines, having the revs on tap helps quite a bit). By keeping it in gear longer, you maintain the revs and the power. I don't think it's worth bothering with in normal driving, but in those instances where you are going to want more power than normal and you don't want to wait for it, the manual shift mode is useful.
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

I took another WK2 test drive tonight of a Limited V6 and never felt the transmission was slow to respond. When I punched the gas it kicked down right away; I did this over & over to the great enjoyment of the salesman. Tried what Technosavant suggested too and it worked perfectly; holding the shifter left or right to drop to the lowest gear for passing or jump to drive afterward is quick and easy.
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

I had the same problem and flashing (back in August) did not resolve it. BUT an update to the software flashing in September DID solve the hesitation problem. Have them update your system

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Great info there Abby!

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I had the same problem and flashing (back in August) did not resolve it. BUT an update to the software flashing in September DID solve the hesitation problem. Have them update your system

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This could be why I note no issues- mine was built and delivered in late Sept.
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Re: Quite disappointed with the 5-shift gear (3.6l)

Hmm, mine was build late October. So, not sure it will resolve the issue. But still, good point Abby.
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