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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

The remote start button on my fob is actually fairly difficult to press. Maybe I have fat fingers, but I have to be very precise in the angle that I push on the button, or it doesn't work. The lock, unlock, panic and rear hatch buttons operate much more easily than the remote start button. I have accidentally set off the panic alarm twice while carrying bulky items that pressed against my leg where I carry the key fob in my pocket. I have never accidentally pressed the remote start as far as I know.
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

Did you disable the push to unlock the door button as well?? Since you could as easily accidentally unlock the doors or the auto lift gate.

Think a few of you need a class in "How to handle a modern day key fob"
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

They make carbon dioxide detectors that are wired into your garage door openers as soon as it detects carbon dioxide the door opens....I think it was CPREZ on this site said he had one installed.
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

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They make carbon dioxide detectors that are wired into your garage door openers as soon as it detects carbon dioxide the door opens....I think it was CPREZ on this site said he had one installed.

He was describing, I believe a carbon MONOXIDE detector. You're correct, though, that a DIOXIDE detector is what one would really need.

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Old 04-05-2011, 10:25 AM
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He was describing, I believe a carbon MONOXIDE detector. You're correct, though, that a DIOXIDE detector is what one would really need.

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Why? It's carbon monoxide that's being emitted from the vehicle. From personal experience I can state that even if it doesn't kill you, it can make you sicker than a dog.
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

Two things:
1. It just happened to me on the weekend while I was changing back to summer tires, Jeep was jacked up and I'm removing a wheel, the car beeps twice and starts. I had the fob in my vest pocket. Luckily I could easily turn it off via the fob without incident (I was working outdoor).
2. Carbon monoxide is the toxic gas, not carbon dioxide, so a CO monitor is what's sold. It's law here that attached garages with an access door into the house has to have a door seal and auto close feature.
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

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Why? It's carbon monoxide that's being emitted from the vehicle. From personal experience I can state that even if it doesn't kill you, it can make you sicker than a dog.

Lingohocken,

Actually, since the advent of catalytic converters, there is very little carbon monoxide released from cars. Carbon monoxide is the byproduct of incomplete combustion, which carbon DIOXIDE is the byproduct of COMPLETE combustion. Here are the EPA MAXIMUM regulations for 1 gallon of gas:

Hydrocarbons 22.4 grams
Carbon Monoxide 160 grams
NOx 11.2 grams
Carbon Dioxide 3628 grams

So, CO2:CO = 22.675:1 In other words, you need a carbon DIOXIDE detector.

And yes, carbon monoxide can kill you. Just not from a car!
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

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Two things:
1. It just happened to me on the weekend while I was changing back to summer tires, Jeep was jacked up and I'm removing a wheel, the car beeps twice and starts. I had the fob in my vest pocket. Luckily I could easily turn it off via the fob without incident (I was working outdoor).
What would bother me more about this is not the CO, but that the QL re-enables at key cycle. If you don't have that feature it's no issue. Still, it's another reason to not have the fob in the pocket while crawling around the vehicle to do maintenance (beyond it just being more comfortable to have the pockets empty).



Still, I don't know why folks are complaining about the remote start working as designed. Hit the button twice, it starts. That's what it's SUPPOSED to do. If you're hitting it by accident, it isnt' a problem with the feature, it's a problem with where you're keeping the fob. Maybe somebody needs to make a little plastic box for the thing to prevent buttons from being pressed inadvertently- since you never have to take it out, if you're that worried about it, just box the thing.
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

1) Most new homes by code have the garage isolated from the house as far as air transfer / recirculation...

2) Newer cars such as the JGC have such low outputs of harmful gases that in some circumstances the output is actually cleaner than the air they are taking in for combustion...
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Some of you shouldn't be driving this vehicle. If I get one more friggin' PM asking me if I'm worried about sand between the frame and my skid plates.... (c'mon people, it's a friggin' JEEP!!!) Drive it how it's made to be driven. For cripes sake, this tackled did the Rubicon trail. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/02/2...-become-trail/
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Re: Remote Start Issue - I think it is dangerous?

I know about the wheel/seat heat shut off. I just dont know why anyone would want the vehicle to idle for more than 5 minutes, even in Canadian winters. Let it run for a couple of minutes, turn on the heated wheel and seat and get going!
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