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They added the foam shield, no issues. 39 73.58%
They damaged the brake system or another component but it is fixed now. 5 9.43%
They damaged the brake system or another component but it is NOT fixed yet. 7 13.21%
They didn't notify me they broke something, I had to diagnose the issue. 4 7.55%
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No, that is not right. Looks like it was not cleaned prior to installing the shield and the adhesive did not stick. My dealer (or so it looks) cleaned the entire area. I actually wiped down the rest of the engine bay because I realized how dirty it was compared to the area in which they worked!
Just had this brake booster safety recall done. I was going to wait for the alleged new shield Chrysler has rumored to be in the parts pipeline but cold weather is coming real soon and I found a local dealer that had these kits in stock ready to go.

My shield was installed like the one you have pictured........... and sorry to let you know but that IS NOT installed correctly. The foam tabs should not wrap around to the front of the brake booster. Your dealer's tech may have been neat, and cleaned the booster real well but he obviously didn't follow Chryslers recall instructions on how to position this shield to prevent water from seeping into it!

If the two front adhesive tabs wrap around the front of the booster the shield has not been properly positioned on the booster to prevent water from seeping into it, leading to corrosion and booster failure. The foam tabs should sit flush with the front of the booster which allows the foam shield to cover the back 3/4 's of the booster all the way to the firewall.

Post # 46 of this thread by silvermax shows a pic of the booster shield installed correctly and positioned properly as spec'd by Chrysler in the safety recall instructions provided to their dealer network.

In fact the foam shield when installed correctly should be contacting the engine bay firewall so that no water can drip onto the booster from the water drain in the windshield cowling above and to the right of the booster. There are two windshield cowling drains found on the lower right and left sides of the windshield just where the fenders end, below and just behind the two most rearward points of the hood.

Hoping for the job to be done right, but fully expecting crappy dealer service especially from the dealer that had this kit in stock. (Not a good reputation at all)...... before I brought it in for the booster recall I removed the windshield cowling & thoroughly cleaned and degreased the booster just in case I had to peel back the foam shield tabs and reposition the shield if it was installed incorrectly.
And sadly that's exactly what I had to do. WTF!!
My foam shield was not positioned correctly as the two tabs were wrapped around the front of the booster (like the one pictured above ) and the rear of the booster was still exposed to the cowl drain on the drivers side.

The entire reason for this safety recall was to prevent water from entering your booster and freezing, leading to booster failure. If the shield isn't installed correctly the booster will not be protected from water damage and potential failure down the road. IT MUST CONTACT THE REAR OF THE FIREWALL to not allow any water runoff from the windshield cowl drain to seep into the booster! If the front adhesive tabs of the shield are wrapping around the front of the booster, it has been installed incorrectly and needs to be pushed further back onto the booster until it contacts the rear engine bay firewall, fully protecting it from water runoff from the drivers side windshield cowl drain.

Once again Chrysler has come up with a BS, cheap and easy "fix" to remedy poorly designed and cheaply constructed components that their dealer network seems to be unable to even install correctly. That's even if you can get a dealer to perform this "safety recall" without having to wait 6 months for the part!

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Re: Safety Recall P14 / NHTSA 14V-154 Brake Booster Success Poll

Thanks for all of your posts, as I now know what to watch for. I'm in southern California, with no plans to go tot he snow areas in CA with my Grand Cherokee, so may wait quite a while before bothering with this.
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I just called the dealer. They only get so many parts I was told. Still on the list, going into the 4th month.

Don't do a f-ing recall if you can't actually do the work. This is ridiculous, and another reason why I will never buy another Chrysler product (among a failed transmission, engine head, and navigation unit).


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I just called the dealer. They only get so many parts I was told. Still on the list, going into the 4th month.

Don't do a f-ing recall if you can't actually do the work. This is ridiculous, and another reason why I will never buy another Chrysler product (among a failed transmission, engine head, and navigation unit).


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Re: Safety Recall P14 / NHTSA 14V-154 Brake Booster Success Poll

Is this same brake booster used on the Mercedes-Benz ML and GL vehicles with the same basic body and suspension structure?
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Re: Safety Recall P14 / NHTSA 14V-154 Brake Booster Success Poll

Just looked at mine. It's wrong. Going in tomorrow.
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Just had this brake booster safety recall done. I was going to wait for the alleged new shield Chrysler has rumored to be in the parts pipeline but cold weather is coming real soon and I found a local dealer that had these kits in stock ready to go.

My shield was installed like the one you have pictured........... and sorry to let you know but that IS NOT installed correctly. The foam tabs should not wrap around to the front of the brake booster. Your dealer's tech may have been neat, and cleaned the booster real well but he obviously didn't follow Chryslers recall instructions on how to position this shield to prevent water from seeping into it!

If the two front adhesive tabs wrap around the front of the booster the shield has not been properly positioned on the booster to prevent water from seeping into it, leading to corrosion and booster failure. The foam tabs should sit flush with the front of the booster which allows the foam shield to cover the back 3/4 's of the booster all the way to the firewall.

Post # 46 of this thread by silvermax shows a pic of the booster shield installed correctly and positioned properly as spec'd by Chrysler in the safety recall instructions provided to their dealer network.

In fact the foam shield when installed correctly should be contacting the engine bay firewall so that no water can drip onto the booster from the water drain in the windshield cowling above and to the right of the booster. There are two windshield cowling drains found on the lower right and left sides of the windshield just where the fenders end, below and just behind the two most rearward points of the hood.

Hoping for the job to be done right, but fully expecting crappy dealer service especially from the dealer that had this kit in stock. (Not a good reputation at all)...... before I brought it in for the booster recall I removed the windshield cowling & thoroughly cleaned and degreased the booster just in case I had to peel back the foam shield tabs and reposition the shield if it was installed incorrectly.
And sadly that's exactly what I had to do. WTF!!
My foam shield was not positioned correctly as the two tabs were wrapped around the front of the booster (like the one pictured above ) and the rear of the booster was still exposed to the cowl drain on the drivers side.

The entire reason for this safety recall was to prevent water from entering your booster and freezing, leading to booster failure. If the shield isn't installed correctly the booster will not be protected from water damage and potential failure down the road. IT MUST CONTACT THE REAR OF THE FIREWALL to not allow any water runoff from the windshield cowl drain to seep into the booster! If the front adhesive tabs of the shield are wrapping around the front of the booster, it has been installed incorrectly and needs to be pushed further back onto the booster until it contacts the rear engine bay firewall, fully protecting it from water runoff from the drivers side windshield cowl drain.

Once again Chrysler has come up with a BS, cheap and easy "fix" to remedy poorly designed and cheaply constructed components that their dealer network seems to be unable to even install correctly. That's even if you can get a dealer to perform this "safety recall" without having to wait 6 months for the part!
Props to you, Raptor. I just got my Jeep back tonight and thanks to your post I now know my brake booster shield was installed incorrectly. Mine also has the two tabs over the front of the brake booster.

I'm debating whether or not to take it back in. I think if I go back in I'll be even more irritated than I am now. I'll look at it in the morning and if I can easily figure out how to get to the tab at the 9 o'clock position I'll just go ahead and fix it myself.

Apparently the poll needs another option... Brake booster shield was installed incorrectly and needed to be fixed.
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Re: Safety Recall P14 / NHTSA 14V-154 Brake Booster Success Poll

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Just had this brake booster safety recall done. I was going to wait for the alleged new shield Chrysler has rumored to be in the parts pipeline but cold weather is coming real soon and I found a local dealer that had these kits in stock ready to go.

My shield was installed like the one you have pictured........... and sorry to let you know but that IS NOT installed correctly. The foam tabs should not wrap around to the front of the brake booster. Your dealer's tech may have been neat, and cleaned the booster real well but he obviously didn't follow Chryslers recall instructions on how to position this shield to prevent water from seeping into it!

If the two front adhesive tabs wrap around the front of the booster the shield has not been properly positioned on the booster to prevent water from seeping into it, leading to corrosion and booster failure. The foam tabs should sit flush with the front of the booster which allows the foam shield to cover the back 3/4 's of the booster all the way to the firewall.

Post # 46 of this thread by silvermax shows a pic of the booster shield installed correctly and positioned properly as spec'd by Chrysler in the safety recall instructions provided to their dealer network.

In fact the foam shield when installed correctly should be contacting the engine bay firewall so that no water can drip onto the booster from the water drain in the windshield cowling above and to the right of the booster. There are two windshield cowling drains found on the lower right and left sides of the windshield just where the fenders end, below and just behind the two most rearward points of the hood.

Hoping for the job to be done right, but fully expecting crappy dealer service especially from the dealer that had this kit in stock. (Not a good reputation at all)...... before I brought it in for the booster recall I removed the windshield cowling & thoroughly cleaned and degreased the booster just in case I had to peel back the foam shield tabs and reposition the shield if it was installed incorrectly.
And sadly that's exactly what I had to do. WTF!!
My foam shield was not positioned correctly as the two tabs were wrapped around the front of the booster (like the one pictured above ) and the rear of the booster was still exposed to the cowl drain on the drivers side.

The entire reason for this safety recall was to prevent water from entering your booster and freezing, leading to booster failure. If the shield isn't installed correctly the booster will not be protected from water damage and potential failure down the road. IT MUST CONTACT THE REAR OF THE FIREWALL to not allow any water runoff from the windshield cowl drain to seep into the booster! If the front adhesive tabs of the shield are wrapping around the front of the booster, it has been installed incorrectly and needs to be pushed further back onto the booster until it contacts the rear engine bay firewall, fully protecting it from water runoff from the drivers side windshield cowl drain.

Once again Chrysler has come up with a BS, cheap and easy "fix" to remedy poorly designed and cheaply constructed components that their dealer network seems to be unable to even install correctly. That's even if you can get a dealer to perform this "safety recall" without having to wait 6 months for the part!
Mine looks just like that and the dealer says it's correct. There is no difference in size with the old and revised one. The only difference is where the tabs go. You can see the seal on the booster that it covers. I would like to see both of them off the booster to see if they're equal in size. I don't know what to think. I would like to see it written somewhere that the foam should be resting on the firewall.
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Mine looks just like that and the dealer says it's correct. There is no difference in size with the old and revised one. The only difference is where the tabs go. You can see the seal on the booster that it covers. I would like to see both of them off the booster to see if they're equal in size. I don't know what to think. I would like to see it written somewhere that the foam should be resting on the firewall.
I would have expected a revision in the TSB since it so picture heavy, but so for there no changes.


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So against my better judgement I stopped at the dealership on my way to work.

Both my service consultant and the shop foreman said the repair was done correctly. They could not explain why it was different from the photo in the TSB, but that it still covered the part of the brake booster that was susceptible to water damage.

The service manager was on vacation, so I'm going back to speak with him next week.

I don't know what to think. I want to make sure this is fixed properly.
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Mine looks just like that and the dealer says it's correct. There is no difference in size with the old and revised one. The only difference is where the tabs go. You can see the seal on the booster that it covers. I would like to see both of them off the booster to see if they're equal in size. I don't know what to think. I would like to see it written somewhere that the foam should be resting on the firewall.
It doesn't matter were the tabs are "stuck" what matters is that the booster shield is installed correctly covering the back 2/3rds of the booster... all the way to the firewall.

Here print this out and take it to your shoddy dealer service advisor and let him explain why his tech didn't follow the very explicit instruction steps Chrysler lists to do this recall correctly. Have him look at the pretty color pictures as well! Be especially careful to show him page No. 10, step No. 21, that shows how a correctly installed booster shield should look!!

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/rc_P1414.pdf
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So against my better judgement I stopped at the dealership on my way to work.

Both my service consultant and the shop foreman said the repair was done correctly. They could not explain why it was different from the photo in the TSB, but that it still covered the part of the brake booster that was susceptible to water damage.

The service manager was on vacation, so I'm going back to speak with him next week.

I don't know what to think. I want to make sure this is fixed properly.
I suggest you do the same;

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/rc_P1414.pdf

The cheap foam booster shield will completely protect the booster from water and ice melt run off when it is installed back on the booster covering the crimped seam that is the source of this potential problem all the way to the firewall. When installed correctly the shield should be on the engine bay firewall as to not allow water run off from the windshield cowling drains to seep into the crimped booster seam and then freeze causing the failing booster issue this recall was designed to prevent.
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