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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

Will doing this flash on the 4 modules affect an aftermarket ECU tune.


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Old 06-29-2016, 06:56 AM
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

My question is "what would happen if you unbuckled the seatbelt on the freeway"? I have done this to take off a jacket, or to get to my wallet. Will it still try to go into park? I frequently unbuckle when at the drive-thru.
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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My question is "what would happen if you unbuckled the seatbelt on the freeway"? I have done this to take off a jacket, or to get to my wallet. Will it still try to go into park? I frequently unbuckle when at the drive-thru.
Only if you open the door
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Old 06-29-2016, 08:30 AM
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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Still beats the heck out of 12-16 MPG with a HEMI....
No it doesn't.


If the flash operates the same way on the SRT as described in this thread, I will probably get it done. The only other person that drives the SRT besides me though is the girlfriend, and she has a $500,000 life insurance policy, hmmmmm🤔

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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

[QUOTE. I'm not sure how NOT having this feature is preferable.[/QUOTE]



Really what's the point if all it does is tell you your not in park or automatically shift to park I think with or without this update I'll manage
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Old 06-29-2016, 11:41 AM
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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.... Honestly, I've noticed no difference in the way it works now since my use and habits were in line with how it was meant to work. Nice to have though a fail safe though.
That's all it is, is a fail safe. If you put the Jeep in park like you're supposed to, nothing changes.

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So can you still back up with the door open, as long as your seatbelt is on? If so, then I'll have it.
Yes, that is correct, you can. (see below for details on Auto Park features)

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some off us are avoiding a prior TCM flash as it can alter the shifting in undesirable ways.....agree, safety first but this one, eh
The Auto Park recall doesn't affect the shift patterns. That may be a different flash.

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My question is "what would happen if you unbuckled the seatbelt on the freeway"? I have done this to take off a jacket, or to get to my wallet. Will it still try to go into park? I frequently unbuckle when at the drive-thru.
It won't go into park in either of those scenarios. The Jeep must be moving slower than 1.2 mph to Auto Park

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Only if you open the door
Nope, it won't Auto Park then unless other conditions are met (see below).


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Here's the details on Auto Park. This is from Jeep, via a flyer they gave me after having the recall done.

The vehicle will Auto Park when the following conditions are met:
Vehicle not in park, speed is 1.2mph or less and ignition switch is pressed
or
Vehicle not in park, speed is 1.2mph or less, driver's seatbelt unbuckled, driver's door is ajar, and brake pedal is not depressed

All criteria must be met for either circumstance to engage Auto Park. Notice in both situations, the speed must be below 1.2mph. In the event you are driving faster than 1.2mph EVIC will display "Vehicle Speed is too high to shift".
The flyer also notes that Auto Park will only engage withing 5 seconds of the request to park.
Also, if equipped, 4wd low disables Auto Park. If the door is ajar, it will display the message "Auto Park Not Engaged".

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The message "Vehicle not in park", is not new. It has always displayed this when you open the door, or pressed the start/stop button with it in gear. That isn't part of the Auto Park, but rather the previous attempt to prevent people from running themselves over. Guess that didn't work so now they've updated it so the Jeep will shift to park for them in the right conditions.
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:52 PM
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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...The Auto Park recall doesn't affect the shift patterns. That may be a different flash...
didn't say Auto Park affected shift patterns I pointed out that one of the four flashes (TCM) may alter your shifting. The may is a WILL for anyone like me who is not current on TCM flashes because they like their shifting and the more recent flash changes it in an undesirable way so we have been avoiding getting the updated TCM flash. This recall, if done, will bring the trans flash rev level current for sure so if you are current on TCM flash then theoretically you will not notice any difference.

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Old 06-29-2016, 04:22 PM
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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Here's the details on Auto Park. This is from Jeep, via a flyer they gave me after having the recall done.

The vehicle will Auto Park when the following conditions are met:
Vehicle not in park, speed is 1.2mph or less and ignition switch is pressed
or
Vehicle not in park, speed is 1.2mph or less, driver's seatbelt unbuckled, driver's door is ajar, and brake pedal is not depressed

All criteria must be met for either circumstance to engage Auto Park. Notice in both situations, the speed must be below 1.2mph. In the event you are driving faster than 1.2mph EVIC will display "Vehicle Speed is too high to shift".
The flyer also notes that Auto Park will only engage withing 5 seconds of the request to park.
Also, if equipped, 4wd low disables Auto Park. If the door is ajar, it will display the message "Auto Park Not Engaged".

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I had this performed this past weekend after I was having something else looked at and they told me it was available. My second recall letter happened to be in my mailbox within a day or two.

My question is, does it only "auto park" if you are in R, as mentioned previously in the thread? I asked the dealership what was changing, all they told me was software, no specific changes.

I tried the quoted above yesterday while in D after parking. Unbuckled, opened the drivers side door, foot off the brake, and the vehicle rolled forward.

I never had any issues with it before. Purely my curiosity about what was changed.

Edit: No flyer was given to me after the recall was performed.
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Old 06-29-2016, 08:56 PM
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I had this performed this past weekend after I was having something else looked at and they told me it was available. My second recall letter happened to be in my mailbox within a day or two.

My question is, does it only "auto park" if you are in R, as mentioned previously in the thread? I asked the dealership what was changing, all they told me was software, no specific changes.

I tried the quoted above yesterday while in D after parking. Unbuckled, opened the drivers side door, foot off the brake, and the vehicle rolled forward.

I never had any issues with it before. Purely my curiosity about what was changed.

Edit: No flyer was given to me after the recall was performed.
Doesn't sound like the update was done. Sounds like your dealer screwed up. Check with the owner connect and NHTSA websites, they should have your vin listed as completing the recall or not.
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...My question is, does it only "auto park" if you are in R, as mentioned previously in the thread?...I tried the quoted above yesterday while in D after parking. Unbuckled, opened the drivers side door, foot off the brake, and the vehicle rolled forward...
If someone earlier mentioned it will "only" auto-park in R that has got to be wrong as that makes no sense at all since the risk is not truly being in P which would include D, R and N. The quote from the flyer confirm this as they say "not in Park" which makes sense.

You mention you tried it "while in D after parking"...did you mean stopping not parking? If so, when did you release brake? If you opened door THEN took foot off brake Auto-Park should not engage as the brake was on when the door was opened...

Just trying to further everyone's understanding of the confusing fix to the confusing shifter
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If someone earlier mentioned it will "only" auto-park in R that has got to be wrong as that makes no sense at all since the risk is not truly being in P which would include D, R and N. The quote from the flyer confirm this as they say "not in Park" which makes sense.

You mention you tried it "while in D after parking"...did you mean stopping not parking? If so, when did you release brake? If you opened door THEN took foot off brake Auto-Park should not engage as the brake was on when the door was opened...

Just trying to further everyone's understanding of the confusing fix to the confusing shifter
If you open the door, have your seatbelt off, and take your foot off brake, it will go into auto park, no matter what sequence occurs.
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Re: Shifter recal yes or no

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If you open the door, have your seatbelt off, and take your foot off brake, it will go into auto park, no matter what sequence occurs.
yeah that was the given in the scenario discussed, so yours was unbuckled...that's the whole point of the recall, no seatbelt means you are (or can) exit so they won't let you hang out for a looky so a lot of folks were antsy about losing that capability for boat/water/dark garages/no camera situations....but that seems to be all cleared up now...must have seatbelt clicked (in front of you, behind you or illegal? click cheater) or going 1.2mph+, or in 4WD Lo and you can hang out like a motorcycle sidecar racer
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