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Old 03-18-2011, 12:21 AM
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

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Getting it to light up should not be too much trouble. Just illuminate the cavity behind the button and make the lettering translucent.
The start/stop button is a removable piece which can be popped out and the key or keyfob can be used in it's place. I'm not so sure that you can install a led or bulb where there was never meant to be one.
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

It sucks that it doesn't light up and this also shows that Jeep hasn't quite caught up to the rest of the vehicle makers in terms of attention to detail and features.

My 6 year old Toyota 4Runner has an illuminated ring around the key slot. It may not be a push-button system but at least I can find it easily at night.

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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

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The start/stop button is a removable piece which can be popped out and the key or keyfob can be used in it's place. I'm not so sure that you can install a led or bulb where there was never meant to be one.
Please re-read my original post. You don't have to put a led or light bulb into the button itself. I said to put a light inside the dash that illuminates the cavity behind the button where you would insert the key fob. Then make the lettering on the button translucent to allow the light in the cavity behind the button to shine through.

I just had another thought, why didn't they at least put an illuminated ring around the button like the illuminated ring around the ignition key slot on my wife's 2008 Liberty.
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

Is it possible to start the car using just the little key once you have removed the button, or will it only start using the end of the FOB?
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

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Is it possible to start the car using just the little key once you have removed the button, or will it only start using the end of the FOB?
You don't need the little key or the fob, you can just stick your finger in there as long as the fob is nearby.
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I'd say the cheapest part of the jeep is the manual fan speed control for the climate controls. Feels like its ready to let go at a moments notice.
+1 I hate that stupid knob. Not only is it the cheapest piece on the car it might be the cheapest piece on any car. Ever. What were they thinking? I'd say maybe they never touched it during testing because they only used Auto mode. But even Auto mode wasn't right and needed a TSB.

Sorry for the sarcasm and to hi-jack this thread.

I am sure that somebody could make an aftermarket button with "glow in the dark" type lettering. But yes, it should have been lit. I was surprised by this too.
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

Thanks PWGUY, but I was wondering if it was possible to start the car with just the little metal key without the FOB. I have a feeling this is not possible. I'm trying to figure out a backup to use if I lose the FOB while out in the woods - I assume hiding the spare FOB inside the car somewhere would not work. I guess I could remove the battery from the spare FOB and keep it in the car, then put the little metal key in a hide-a-key under the car somewhere. I wonder if there is another way that might work without having to use both FOBs?
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

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Thanks PWGUY, but I was wondering if it was possible to start the car with just the little metal key without the FOB. I have a feeling this is not possible. I'm trying to figure out a backup to use if I lose the FOB while out in the woods - I assume hiding the spare FOB inside the car somewhere would not work. I guess I could remove the battery from the spare FOB and keep it in the car, then put the little metal key in a hide-a-key under the car somewhere. I wonder if there is another way that might work without having to use both FOBs?
The metal key will not start the car, it only allows you to get in the vehicle. What you could do is; use a hide a key to hide the metal key somewhere outside the car, this would allow you to get in the car. Then hide the second fob somwhere in the back of the jeep on the inside. The jeep can not start unless the fob is in the front part of the cabin, I think the fob needs to be within three feet of the push button in order to start the car. So if the fob is kept in the back the car still can not be started unless the fob is moved to the front of the car.
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

I tried keeping the FOB in the rear on another vehicle but the FOB was too close to the hatch back and so it would open the hatch. I bet the only way is to remove a battery - not something I plan to need on a regular basis, but I do spend a lot of time out in the middle of no where and away from the vehicle and am always afraid of losing a FOB (in fact most of the time I hide the FOB under a rock somewhere so I don't lose it in the wilderness, but then I forget which rock I hid it under!). I love the FOBs, but life was so much simpler before them...
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

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I tried keeping the FOB in the rear on another vehicle but the FOB was too close to the hatch back and so it would open the hatch. I bet the only way is to remove a battery - not something I plan to need on a regular basis, but I do spend a lot of time out in the middle of no where and away from the vehicle and am always afraid of losing a FOB (in fact most of the time I hide the FOB under a rock somewhere so I don't lose it in the wilderness, but then I forget which rock I hid it under!). I love the FOBs, but life was so much simpler before them...
This subject came up a few months ago - search the forum, someone had a link to key safe that plugged into the hitch receiver. The key safe itself had a combination lock and a cover. You could put the FOB in there (wrap it in tinfoil if the safe itself is not enough shielding)
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I tried keeping the FOB in the rear on another vehicle but the FOB was too close to the hatch back and so it would open the hatch. I bet the only way is to remove a battery - not something I plan to need on a regular basis, but I do spend a lot of time out in the middle of no where and away from the vehicle and am always afraid of losing a FOB (in fact most of the time I hide the FOB under a rock somewhere so I don't lose it in the wilderness, but then I forget which rock I hid it under!). I love the FOBs, but life was so much simpler before them...
On the WK2, the doors should not be able to be unlocked from the outside, if there is a fob present on the inside. So if the fob is inside the vehicle, you should not be able to unlock the door from the outside. There have been posters here, that have locked themselves out, by accidently leaving the fob in the cargo area and shutting the lift gate. I have tried this myself. I rolled down the window; locked the door and tossed the fob on the front seat. I was not able to unlock the door from the outside by pulling on the handle
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Re: Start/Stop Button Illumination

What Chryco should have done was add the ability to start the damned thing without the FOB, so you could still hide a key... and it would have been exceptionally easy for them to do. Open door with emergency key (no fob in vicinity), alarm doesn't go off, get in Jeep. Hit start button, Jeep doesn't detect a FOB, so it sends power to the touch screen, and prompts you to enter a numeric code or a password (that you set previously). Enter it correctly, it starts the engine and lets you drive it. Enter it incorrectly after 3 times, and it sets the alarm off. Or electrocutes the person in the drivers seat.
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