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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

Anyone heard anything about an update that works? I'm tired of the spin from jeep. I think 8 months is time enough for them to fix it. Seeing as not everyone has this issue maybe I should ask for a new one?? Anyone done the same?
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Floosy ive been going through the process for about 3 months now, had one hearing with Cttt, and waiting for the final one to be scheduled. It's not as smooth or quick a process as I would have hoped, but I'm pretty confident I'll get mine replaced or refunded. I can't see how an 4wd can be fit for purpose when you can't use it off road
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

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Anyone heard anything about an update that works? I'm tired of the spin from jeep. I think 8 months is time enough for them to fix it. Seeing as not everyone has this issue maybe I should ask for a new one?? Anyone done the same?
The guys at the local service centre is quite sure that no software fix has been released yet. Still the same story..."has to come from US...involves other major updates...and hence testing it to no end...etc etc
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

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Floosy ive been going through the process for about 3 months now, had one hearing with Cttt, and waiting for the final one to be scheduled. It's not as smooth or quick a process as I would have hoped, but I'm pretty confident I'll get mine replaced or refunded. I can't see how an 4wd can be fit for purpose when you can't use it off road
Did you manage to get a written document that confirms when the 4wd malfunction was first acknowledged by Jeep Service ?
I am also considering lodging a ACCC complaint but for me to prove that Jeep knew about this issue before selling the vehicle to me, I will need to get this evidence. It will also help in when one demands a compensation.
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

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This is fine - the ACCC have a simple on line form where you can lodge a complaint. But they won't do anything in resect of your particular situation. If you are really serious the correct organisation in NSW is CTTT.

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http://www.cttt.nsw.gov.au/default.html
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

Well the next week should be interesting.......

Took the Overland into James Frizles Gold Coast on Friday and got my front recovery hook and that TSB update. Why?

Tomorrow I start a bit of a drive to Hervey Bay, across to Fraser and down to the ColooLa Recreational area. What's there? Sand, and lots of it.

I wasn't too worried as a mate and his sister visiting from England, would be in a Delica that has done it before. Bit scary (and embarrassing) when a Delica is a recovery vehicle for a Jeep but hey. Then his Delica is being held up in a workshop for some repairs much more extensive than anticipated.

So now it's the three of us in the Overland, with a off-road camper being drawn behind to carry all the gear 3 wine heads need for a week. To use Sand mode or not......

Must admit to being a little worried about the IndiaN Pt bypass track and getting stuck in that deep sand with a trailer.
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

At least there'll be plenty of people to pull you out!
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

Guys is this occurring with both QT1 and QT2 or just 2?
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:45 PM
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

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Well the next week should be interesting.......

Took the Overland into James Frizles Gold Coast on Friday and got my front recovery hook and that TSB update. Why?

Tomorrow I start a bit of a drive to Hervey Bay, across to Fraser and down to the ColooLa Recreational area. What's there? Sand, and lots of it.

I wasn't too worried as a mate and his sister visiting from England, would be in a Delica that has done it before. Bit scary (and embarrassing) when a Delica is a recovery vehicle for a Jeep but hey. Then his Delica is being held up in a workshop for some repairs much more extensive than anticipated.

So now it's the three of us in the Overland, with a off-road camper being drawn behind to carry all the gear 3 wine heads need for a week. To use Sand mode or not......

Must admit to being a little worried about the IndiaN Pt bypass track and getting stuck in that deep sand with a trailer.
As you know it has been unseasonably dry in Qld so I imagine Indian head will be pretty tough right now. I got over it no problems before Christmas last year. For the crossing I would recommend put it in low and putting it in third gear. They have a tendency to not hold gear and drop down right when you need the power. I did it with tyre pressures just above 20 psi on 18" rims but next time will definitely go lower 16 psi seems to be to consensus. good luck it is an awesome island enjoy
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

This whole thing is very puzzling. On the one one hand, you have cases like mine where I have both found myself in very treacherous muddy roads in rural Oklahoma, clay slick muddy mess like you wouldn't believe, and a trail like Medano Pass with extremely treacherous sandy sections and have not run into this error.

Then I run into the error while traversing a mildly rocky, but very dry section of Ophir Pass with little wheel spin.

From the TSB's Jeep has applied to the issue you would think this has something to do with wheel spin, an ABS sensor and some protective fault logic in the WK2's computer. However, if that was the case, why would we not be seeing reports of this error with people wheeling through the mud? What is so unique about sandy terrain?

It's pretty mystifying when you think about it. What is interesting is that beach drivers seem to encounter the error fairly quickly. I've driven Medano three times, both ways, no errors, but encounter it on a mild trail after driving far worse trails. It shakes your confidence in these vehicles and it relates to the core reason someone buys these vehicles. It's not like we're talking about a fit/finish issue, it's the drive system. I would be very hesitant now to make an unaccompanied run on a trail like Medano now. Jeep needs to raise the focus on this issue now.
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This whole thing is very puzzling.....
From the TSB's Jeep has applied to the issue you would think this has something to do with wheel spin, an ABS sensor and some protective fault logic in the WK2's computer. However, if that was the case, why would we not be seeing reports of this error with people wheeling through the mud? What is so unique about sandy terrain?

It's pretty mystifying when you think about it. What is interesting is that beach drivers seem to encounter the error fairly quickly. I've driven Medano three times, both ways, no errors, but encounter it on a mild trail after driving far worse trails. It shakes your confidence in these vehicles and it relates to the core reason someone buys these vehicles. It's not like we're talking about a fit/finish issue, it's the drive system. I would be very hesitant now to make an unaccompanied run on a trail like Medano now. Jeep needs to raise the focus on this issue now.
This entire issue makes me question if there is an over use of computers, sensors & other electronic crap. Vehicles did just fine in awful conditions before the use of "why tech" over "high tech". Who will be able to repair these things in 10, 15-25 years? I say back off the needless complexity & remember than more complex isn't always better.
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Re: STUCK IN SAND with 4WD malfunction

I agree. Just follow KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) principle. This is a Jeep for crying out loud and is supposed to be unstoppable.

I am taking the Jeep to Ouray for the long weekend and will be going on Ophir, Engineer and Imogene passes. I want to do the Medano pass, but am too worried about being stuck in sand. It sucks because my old 98 ZJ gave me more confidence because of its pure mechanical system. Too many computer gizmos are put on our vehicles these days. One of the main reasons why I purchased maxicare warranty on the Jeep for peace of mind.
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