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Angry mine has started the failure

Just got my recall notice and the starting issue has just started on my 2011 Overland. Called a local dealership and they stated I am number 28 on there list with no parts available to start the fixes.

How long do the symptoms last before the full failure?

Winter is coming in the Northeast and I can only ride the bike for so long.

Anyone know what the fix will be? new TIPM or the relay by-pass?

I'd hate to pay for one, then have Chrysler authorize the other.

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Re: TIPM Recall

I was at the dealer today to get 2 recalls, an RRT on the BCM, and 3 other flashes done on my '14. Got the visor wiring recall done......wait on parts for the brake booster. I inquired about when I should bring in my '11 for the TIPM recall and the other 2 recalls. The service department said they will not address the TIPM recall until I get my "follow up" notice as stated in the recall letter. I had not really read all of the recall but that is what it says.

"Chrysler is making every effort to provide the part as quickly as possible. Chrysler will contact you again by mail, with a follow-up notice, when the remedy part is available.

Once you receive your follow-up notice in the mail, simply contact your Chrysler, Jeep or Dodge dealer right away to schedule a service appointment."

So, since I have not had any problem, my dealer will not even look at the TIPM recall until I get a "follow-up" notice. I also noticed on the dealerships computer that this recall was listed as "Interim".

So basically it's "An intermittent or failed fuel pump relay could cause the engine to stall while driving and cause a crash without warning".......but hey, don't worry about it until we send you a "follow-up" when we buy enough dime store stuff for the bastardized hack to your wiring harness fix.

I love my Grand Cherokees, both of them, but I am very unhappy with Chrysler on this one. 1. No parts. AND 2. We deserve a newly designed and properly manufactured TIPM that keeps the vehicle as designed, as advertised, and as sold. The "Totally Integrated Power Module" was part of their sales pitch in their brochures and online information. A hacked wiring harness with external fuel pump relay is no longer "Totally Integrated". And, of course, we all know that TIPM most likely will fail and cause other problems.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:44 AM
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+100 to Jerry's comments above. Hard to be anything but cynical and alarmed that Chryco would not only continue to put faulty TIPMs/fuel relays in vehicles over a lenghty period of new model years, but that this will continue to leave drivers stranded. The manana attitude is outrageous as well.

Crossed fingers the hacked wiring workaround does it in the interim, even if I had to shoulder the costs. Dubious that I venture out on our normal family road trips into the wilderness or National Parks of the West in this vehicle with this Russian Roulette. I try to be self sufficient with a full kit stored in the cargo area, but this is farking sad. Kinda defeats the purpose of a Jeep, or any SUV for that matter.
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Re: TIPM Recall

So far, after the mod to the relay about a month ago, I have not had a single issue. A few other issues I had with internal electronics acting up have also seemed to disappear. I think the TIPM may have been being starved for current due to the relay design. I am back to happy with my GC. Hope it continues.
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Re: TIPM Recall

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My wife drives a 2011 GC Overland. The odometer just turned 51K. It had been having hard start issues for the past 3 weeks. I did a little studying and discovered the TIPM fuel pump relay issues. The link below has a PDF that shows what kits to buy at the dealer and how to install them.

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I installed the relay kit yesterday. Total cost was around $72 at my local dealer. I could have spent less by getting the relay kit elsewhere but I was in a hurry. The inline fuse I could have got a my local NAPA. It took me about 3 hours to install including the time to build the little relay harness. Seems to have fixed my issues. Time will tell for sure.
Hey guys just wanted to check in. It's been over two months and over 5k miles since I installed the relay kit. No problems to speak of. I see many folks are having all kinds of hassles with TIPM replacement. And just this past weekend I received a notice in the mail warning me of TIPM issues. Oh yea I thought?!?! Kinda late but whatever. I won't be running to my local dealer for this one.

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Got my recall letter today.

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Re: TIPM Recall

There is more to the TIPM issue than the fuel pump relay. Those that have had the relay fix may want t o consider the latest recall.
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There is more to the TIPM issue than the fuel pump relay. Those that have had the relay fix may want t o consider the latest recall.
What are you saying?? The "latest" P54 recall doesn't address anything in the faulty TIPM's other than jumping the internal fuel pump relay with an externally wired one.

While Chrysler should be replacing these faulty TIPM's with new redesigned parts they have chosen the cheap easy fix that compromises the integrity of your main wiring harness which may eventually lead to other electrical issues down the road. Chrysler has chosen to not even address the multiple other relays found in the faulty TIPM's that may eventually fail as well!
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There is more to the TIPM issue than the fuel pump relay. Those that have had the relay fix may want t o consider the latest recall.

I agree with Raptor. What are you talking about? The latest recall is SOLELY about bypassing the Fuel Pump Relay component within the TIPM.

In addition, what other TIPM issues are people discovering? The only sequence of concern I've heard of with regard to the TIPM Fuel Pump issue is the subsequent premature failure of the Fuel Pump and starter which is an extension of the TIPM issue.
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I was having the starting issue with my 2011 GC Overland for a couple of weeks. It started getting worse, meaning it was happening about every time I attempted to start. I called Chrysler and was told to bring it to the dealership where they could check it, if the dealership found the issue then they could escalate the service.

The dealership performed the P54 recall within two hours upon arrival and I have had zero starting issues since. It has only been the weekend but I am optimistic that the starting issue has been solved.

On another note, the GC also seems to be running a bit smoother now as well. Maybe because they had to disconnect the battery and cleared out the computer so it has to "relearn" my driving habits but it seems to by more lively, a bit more powerful, and the light "fish bite" is gone. I'll keep an eye on this and track mileage to see the effects there.

One thing I do not like is the way the new harness looks, extra wires dressed up alone the side and relays out of place. I'll have to take pictures later when I get home.

I agree with others as well, if Chrysler knew there was an issue with the TIPM they should replace the units in our Jeeps. All of them to prevent the issues. I do applaud them for at least coming up with a fix to keep us running, hopefully until enough replacement TIPM have been built to fix the number of units out in service.
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Re: TIPM Recall

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This is what I've read on the problem:

ďA defective TIPM can sometimes make it impossible to start your car. In addition, it can cause any of the following:

The fuel pump not turning off
The airbags not deploying OR deploying randomly
The engine stalling while driving
The horn going off at random times

In other words, having a vehicle with a faulty TIPM is like driving something possessed."

Apparently people aren't doing enough research on the problems with TIPM. As stated before it is more than just a fuel pump relay issue.
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Apparently people aren't doing enough research on the problems with TIPM. As stated before it is more than just a fuel pump relay issue.
Really!

Did you just tell this forum we need to do more research on this issue?? And you link to a statement YOU made on this issue as your prove? Do you have any info as to what other TIPM issues Chrysler is not telling us about?

The facts are; It is an internal TIPM fuel pump relay issue....... when the fuel pump module is not energized at all, due to a faulty internal TIPM relay, the vehicle won't start or will immediately stall after starting. This will lead to shortened starter life as multiple and excessive starter use will lead to overheating and eventual starter failure.

When the fuel pump module is energized all the time, due to a faulty internal TIPM relay, your fuel pump module runs all day and night overheating the module & shortening it's service life. This will also lead to shortening the service life of the battery.

All of these issues are due to a faulty internal fuel pump relay found in the TIPM. Thats all, nothing else!
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