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Re: TIPM Recall

Yep I understand. I think the recall letter I posted above it had the same commentary. Even on my official "recall card" it has a check box for "repair has already been completed", which to me would mean exactly what you mentioned, where we just submit receipts and a cheque comes in the mail. In lovely Canada it doesn't appear that simple, hopefully they've decided to make it easier and convenient for you guys.


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Re: TIPM Recall

This thread has left me a bit confused. Some people have had had 2012's fixed and yet, the campaign doesn't list the 2012.

I saw one post that stated all 2011-2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee's will experience this issue and another where 2012+ may have a different TIPM, thus only specific 2011 models will have the issue.

I am not (knock on wood) experiencing any starting/stalling issues with my JGC, but with a build date of May 2012, as the miles pile up, should I expect TIPM problems?

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Re: TIPM Recall

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Yes there is an internal fuel pump relay built into the TIPM. There are many other internal relays built into this module. The problem is that all these relays are internal or built into the assembly and cannot be serviced with a simple "swap out" of the faulty parts. The module must be replaced or repaired, (aftermarket company only/not Chrysler) Chrysler has devised a grafted in external traditional wired relay that the jumps the internal one by hacking into your main wiring harness. (Chrysler Star Case #S1308000399)

**There is a company that will repair your faulty TIPM if you take it out and send it to them. They offer a 1 year warrantee and charge $269.00 + shipping.

TIPM Repair | arspeedometer.com

**Here's a bypass solution you can do yourself;

2011-2012 Dodge Durango/Jeep Grand Cherokee TIPM Repair/Bypass Solutions

**And of course you can also do the Chrysler jumped relay fix yourself (Star Case #S1308000399) as well;

http://www.verticalvisions.com/docum...1308000399.pdf

**And lets not forget the new redesigned TIPM's Chrysler just recently put into the parts pipeline that actually fix this issue the right way;

The new Chrysler OEM TIPM part #'s are;

Mopar part # 68244870AA for 5.7L V8's.
MSRP for this new TIPM Kit is $869.00/Dealer Cost $646.00

Mopar part # 68244852AA for 3.6L V6's.
MSRP for this new TIPM Kit is $864.00/Dealer Cost $645.00

Where did you get the info saying the TIPM has been redesigned. Want to make sure that if I buy a new one the fuel relay is not going to be faulty. Thanks
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Re: TIPM Recall

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This thread has left me a bit confused. Some people have had had 2012's fixed and yet, the campaign doesn't list the 2012.

I saw one post that stated all 2011-2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee's will experience this issue and another where 2012+ may have a different TIPM, thus only specific 2011 models will have the issue.

I am not (knock on wood) experiencing any starting/stalling issues with my JGC, but with a build date of May 2012, as the miles pile up, should I expect TIPM problems?

Thanks.
Check your VIN here: https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/

I have '11 and P54 recall comes up for me. Note that you VIN may or may not be loaded in this database yet.
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Re: TIPM Recall

When you guys say it won't start I am assuming it turns over but doesn't fire. Mine wouldn't even turn over the other day, just accesories mode came on. Tried about four times finally it went. I already have the bypass fuel relay. Anyone have this
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Re: TIPM Recall

Mine stalled on the wife a week ago without warning, couple days later I went to start it and it just cranked but wouldn't fire up. Went to dealer to buy new TIPM they couldn't say for sure the new TIPM wouldn't have a faulty relay still and convinced me to do the bypass fix. Later that day it wouldn't start. Not even crank over! Couple tries and it fired up. Confidence is low in this thing and now I read here the TIPM has been redesigned, would rather of spent the extra $$$$ and bought the new one. Can anyone confirm that they are Infact redesigned or updated from its original version. Thanks
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Mine stalled on the wife a week ago without warning, couple days later I went to start it and it just cranked but wouldn't fire up. Went to dealer to buy new TIPM they couldn't say for sure the new TIPM wouldn't have a faulty relay still and convinced me to do the bypass fix. Later that day it wouldn't start. Not even crank over! Couple tries and it fired up. Confidence is low in this thing and now I read here the TIPM has been redesigned, would rather of spent the extra $$$$ and bought the new one. Can anyone confirm that they are Infact redesigned or updated from its original version. Thanks
Did you actually take the time to read this entire thread?

I believe I have answered all of your questions several times in my posts.

My 2012 WK2 had it's TIPM replaced, at my insistence, with a new redesigned part, under warrantee, at no cost to me.

You might want to reread the faulty TIPM experiences and solution I've posted about in this thread!
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Did you actually take the time to read this entire thread?

I believe I have answered all of your questions several times in my posts.

My 2012 WK2 had it's TIPM replaced, at my insistence, with a new redesigned part, under warrantee, at no cost to me.

You might want to reread the faulty TIPM experiences and solution I've posted about in this thread!
I read it yes, I was just looking for some reassurance that they are redesigned that's all. Did u just take your dealers word for it?
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Re: TIPM Recall

Talked to Chrysler Thursday and the guy recommended getting the new TIPM but still doing the recall to it when it goes live. He said the new TIPM would be good for a while but likely would fail eventually as we'l. I did not know the part numbers at the time so I will follow up tomorrow.
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Re: TIPM Recall

An update on my situation. I had been having issues with the jeep stalling anytime I would coast to a stop for over a year. No codes so the dealership would do nothing for me. I had issues with stalling immediately after starting and continuous crank issues for a few months. It got so bad that I could not use the jeep anymore. I talked them into installing a new TIPM under the max care warranty. This did nothing to fix my stalling after start and continuous crank issue. I dont know if it affected the stalling while diving because I couldn't get it started... After it sitting at the dealer for a few weeks they installed the fuel pump relay. It has been 3 1/2 weeks since they installed the relay and it has not stalled out at all while coasting to stops but it has stalled twice immediately after starting. Both times it did start on the second attempt.

So... Having a new TIPM installed and the relay installed has not fixed my problems... It has made my Jeep "good enough" to drive which seems to be all that Chrysler cares about.

My dealer does seem to be concerned and has actually followed up with me multiple times since the "repair" was made. I am hesitant to take it back to them because I don't think there is any more that they can do right now and I have been without my vehicle for multiple months already this year.
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Talked to Chrysler Thursday and the guy recommended getting the new TIPM but still doing the recall to it when it goes live. He said the new TIPM would be good for a while but likely would fail eventually as we'l. I did not know the part numbers at the time so I will follow up tomorrow.
That makes absolutely no rational sense at all!

Why would you install a new TIPM with, I would think, a brand new fully functioning internal fuel pump relay....... and then hack the main harness to jump the brand new internal relay with an externally wired one??

I think you need to find a new dealer service dept. FAST!
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An update on my situation. I had been having issues with the jeep stalling anytime I would coast to a stop for over a year. No codes so the dealership would do nothing for me. I had issues with stalling immediately after starting and continuous crank issues for a few months. It got so bad that I could not use the jeep anymore. I talked them into installing a new TIPM under the max care warranty. This did nothing to fix my stalling after start and continuous crank issue. I dont know if it affected the stalling while diving because I couldn't get it started... After it sitting at the dealer for a few weeks they installed the fuel pump relay. It has been 3 1/2 weeks since they installed the relay and it has not stalled out at all while coasting to stops but it has stalled twice immediately after starting. Both times it did start on the second attempt.

So... Having a new TIPM installed and the relay installed has not fixed my problems... It has made my Jeep "good enough" to drive which seems to be all that Chrysler cares about.

My dealer does seem to be concerned and has actually followed up with me multiple times since the "repair" was made. I am hesitant to take it back to them because I don't think there is any more that they can do right now and I have been without my vehicle for multiple months already this year.

This also makes no sense at all!

You say they installed a new TIPM and yet you still had problems;

"This did nothing to fix my stalling after start and continuous crank issue"
What was the part # of The "new" TIPM they installed. Check your invoice.

Then they jumped the internal relay on a brand new TIPM and you still experienced problems;

"It has been 3 1/2 weeks since they installed the relay and it has not stalled out at all while coasting to stops but it has stalled twice immediately after starting. Both times it did start on the second attempt"

It may be that your original faulty OEM TIPM allowed the fuel pump module to run excessively damaging the module's ability to deliver fuel to the engine and that's why you are still having stalling after start issues.

You too need to find a new dealer service dept!
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