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Re: TIPM Recall

Can anyone confirm the manufacturer year for the P54 recall? I think I read a build date ending 7/2011. I have not received notice, mine is 8/2011.

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Re: TIPM Recall

Follow up to my earlier Post #184

After frustration with my 2011 Jeep GC (failure to start, etc) and no help from Chrysler when I called them about the recall, I left my Jeep with my dealer on 11/25. He organized a rental car for me and said he would call me when part was available. He called today (12/8) and said part (external fuel pump relay) had arrived; he did the install this afternoon and Jeep ready for pick up late afternoon. He arranged for Chrysler to cover the cost of the 13 days car rental. I'll see how my Jeep performs over the next fefw weeks; should be OK.
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Re: TIPM Recall

I just got a note from my insurance company that my Jeep is subject to the recall. I don't recall receiving a notice from Chrysler/Jeep.

I called to make an appointment and the parts are currently not available with no ETA. Nice.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:37 PM
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Just a little FYI, I work at a dealer and we finally got parts for the P54. I did my first one yesterday. This is what it should look like when done. FalconSt posted some pics of what his looks like and I think an untrained chimpanzee could have done a better job. I would definitely not accept that, it does not look like it was done properly. The STAR case shows how it should be done.

Anyways, I know some are saying that the bypass relay is a hack job and that they would not accept it, they want a new TIPM. Also they are saying the TIPM has been redesigned and that a new TIPM will not have this problem. Here's my take: There is no proof that the new TIPM's are any better. Just because they changed part numbers is meaningless. A lot of part number changes just mean that they switched vendors. They may have improved it but I have seen no proof that they did anything to the fuel pump relay. In fact even those that have new TIPMs that come in for the recall will get the relay installed. The bypass relay is definitely more robust than the internal relay. If done properly, it should be fine, even better than the internal relay. There is also the assumption that those who have paid out of pocket for new TIPMs will get reimbursed. Good luck with that. From what I have seen in the past, you're in for a fight. I sincerely hope I am wrong about that. If you have had the relay installed, I don't see a problem with reimbursement. Either way, I would submit for it, you never know.

Well anyways, I just wanted to let anyone who is interested know that the parts are out. We did a ton of those relays under the STAR case without a single problem. If done properly, it re ally should be fine




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Just a little FYI, I work at a dealer and we finally got parts for the P54. I did my first one yesterday. This is what it should look like when done. FalconSt posted some pics of what his looks like and I think an untrained chimpanzee could have done a better job. I would definitely not accept that, it does not look like it was done properly. The STAR case shows how it should be done.
"Anyways, I know some are saying that the bypass relay is a hack job and that they would not accept it, they want a new TIPM."
Yes thats exactly what it is, a cheap hack job that saves Chyrsler money on recall costs while replacing an internal relay with 70's era automotive circuitry. "Also they are saying the TIPM has been redesigned and that a new TIPM will not have this problem. Here's my take: There is no proof that the new TIPM's are any better. Just because they changed part numbers is meaningless. A lot of part number changes just mean that they switched vendors. They may have improved it but I have seen no proof that they did anything to the fuel pump relay."
These TIPM's have been problematic for Chrysler in thousands of vehicles over several different car lines, not just Jeeps. Chrysler is well aware of the problem and the reason the TIPM part numbers have changed or been superseded multiple times before Chrysler came out with an entirely new part #, manufactured by a different vendor, was to get a TIPM that wasn't destined to fail at 40~50K miles like the original OEM TIPM's are! In fact even those that have new TIPMs that come in for the recall will get the relay installed. "The bypass relay is definitely more robust than the internal relay. If done properly, it should be fine, even better than the internal relay." There is also the assumption that those who have paid out of pocket for new TIPMs will get reimbursed. Good luck with that. From what I have seen in the past, you're in for a fight. I sincerely hope I am wrong about that. If you have had the relay installed, I don't see a problem with reimbursement. Either way, I would submit for it, you never know.
"Well anyways, I just wanted to let anyone who is interested know that the parts are out. We did a ton of those relays under the STAR case without a single problem. If done properly, it really should be fine"
And how do you know that? Fine for how long?? Did you take apart a new TIPM and inspect the fuel pump relay to actually see if it might last longer than the 40~50K miles the OEM TIPM's seem to be failing at? Do you know why the OEM TIPM's are failing at the internal fuel pump relay? Would you know even what to look for? These new redesigned TIPM's haven't been around long enough for anyone to make claims that they will fail like the OEM TIPMs made by another vendor did.

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And there you have it forum members;

The Chrysler company line on TIPM recalls and cheap fixes from a loyal company tech!

Don't buy into this BS!

Chrysler should replace every last failed TIPM WITH A NEW ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hack and patch on the heart of your electrical system is completely unacceptable for me! And should be for everyone else as well!
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I don't work for Chrysler. I work at a dealer. I was curious. What are your qualifications?


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I'd assumed from your one and only post in this thread that you install cheap hack relay fixes on Chrysler vehicles at a Chrysler dealer. Correct? That means without Chrysler you don't have a job, which means in effect you do work for Chrysler.
Not really sure how you wouldn't know that!

My qualifications on this issue?
Simple, I'm one of the thousands of victims of Chrysler's use of cheap OEM parts, sourced from the lowest bidder, destined to fail, installed on my brand new vehicle. Having been stranded by my 2012 WK2 several times because of a failed TIPM module.

Note I own an as not yet recalled 2012, not a recalled 2011 model.

I've previously been in the car business for decades and I'm well versed in this issue having been thru it all; from hard to start, to stall after start, to it works fine but my fuel pump module runs all night long, to just it won't f**king run at all & now I'm walking!! You might want to reread this thread and my posts in it before you question my knowledge on this issue or the facts I've compiled and posted while working thru it. Have a nice day!
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I read your posts. I'm not here for a pissing match. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm more interested in facts. Have a nice day


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I posted on 12/9 that my dealer said parts were not available. I called this morning based the information from xj31 and am scheduled to have the recall handled this week.
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Re: TIPM Recall

Recall fix was "verified" today. Which means they at least had the parts and we're doing recall work for the TIPM.

For those that care, here's the price of a coolant flush, decarb?, tune, brake flush, and 4x4 service(diffs and transfer case).

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Re: TIPM Recall

I had the sun visor recall and TIPM recall done last week. Then yesterday the JEEP would not start. Never happened before. Is there anything about these recall fixes that would ca use this? Engine would not crank. Battery is about 4 years old and I know batteries can die with no warning. I am just wondering if the recalls would result in draining the battery. Will be calling AAA tomorrow to jump the battery. If it is not the battrery, wonder if the dealer messed something up to cause a no start.
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Recall fix was "verified" today. Which means they at least had the parts and we're doing recall work for the TIPM.

For those that care, here's the price of a coolant flush, decarb?, tune, brake flush, and 4x4 service(diffs and transfer case).

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$490 for the 4x4 service?!? Woah, glad I usually DIY things!
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