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Old 09-02-2014, 12:36 AM
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Traction Control Light

First things first, I have 2014 base limited.

I was wondering if anyone else had the same issue as me. Once in a while, on a cold start, my traction control light stays on. When the light is on, in the EVIC, in the powertrain tab, the front wheels and diff are greyed out.

Everything else seems to work normally. No error codes are stored, at least the dealer didn't see any. I had updates applied a few weeks back and was hoping that they would clear this up but that hasn't helped. This seems to happen about once a month.

Any ideas would be great.

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Old 09-03-2014, 03:00 PM
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Re: Traction Control Light

Figured I'd post a quick update after taking the car to the dealer. The issue is with a faulty steering angle sensor/module. The part is currently on national backorder but should arrive in 2-3 weeks at which point I'll bring the car in to have it replaced.

They also said that it isn't necessarily a safety issue but when the light is on, traction control may not work properly. So if the light is on, just drive a little more carefully.

EDIT: For anyone that's curious the part # is 1NJ75DX9AC for the steering module.
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:58 AM
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Re: Traction Control Light

Geez. Are there any GC parts that AREN'T on "national backorder?" I think that's the thing that pisses me off the most about Jeep right now. They have plenty of parts for building new ones, but can't seem to allocate any to fixing broken Jeeps.

And this from someone who LOVES their Jeep and has had zero problems so far.
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Re: Traction Control Light

I understand the statement but the reality is that these are very popular vehicles and most businesses staff to meet the orders they have or their demand as the case may be. Gone are the days of warehouses full of spare parts - JIT (Just in Time) Inventory has been the order of the day for a few decades now.

Further complicating these shortages is the fact that the manufacturer can't (shouldn't) just produce more of the defective parts and send them out to replace the defective parts - that would piss people off even more and probably put them out of business. Instead, they have to figure out why the product is not performing as it should, make the necessary manufacturing changes and then meet not only the existing orders they had prior to the recall but find a way to produce even more of the parts. This may mean additional acquiring additional manufacturing facilities and hiring and training new staff. Unfortunately this all takes time.
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I understand the statement but the reality is that these are very popular vehicles and most businesses staff to meet the orders they have or their demand as the case may be. Gone are the days of warehouses full of spare parts - JIT (Just in Time) Inventory has been the order of the day for a few decades now.
Oh puhleeez. Blah blah blah, excuses, excuses!! Who's asking for warehouses full? JIT would be great. We're not talking JIT here. Taking two or more weeks to get a part (quite common, read the threads) is certainly NOT JIT.

Jeep is doing a horrible job of getting parts to dealers in a timely fashion for repairs. They need to do better.

I still love my Jeep though.
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Re: Traction Control Light

JIT is code for
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Re: Traction Control Light

I have a similar issue (ESC light) with the addition of a "Service Air Suspension System" message every time I start my GC. After reading in this thread about the part being on national backorder -- faulty steering angle sensor/module (dealer confirmed that code popped) -- I knew I was in for a long delay. What I didn't count on was the dealer saying the car was unsafe to drive and strongly recommended I leave it with them. Apparently some ABS codes popped too. So now I am into the first week with a rental (dealer/Jeep is paying for it so they have some skin in the game) and will see how long it takes to get this issues resolved. My 2014 Overland hasn't even had its first oil change yet....
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Re: Traction Control Light

Your problem seems to be more serious than mine. I haven't seen my traction control light since the dealership visit. *knocks on wood* As a side note, still haven't gotten the part in.
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Re: Traction Control Light

I am having the same problems as Ralph K. Yesterday, upon starting my JGC Limited with the Diesel engine, the ESC light turned on immediately after starting. Got the SERVICE AIR SUSPENSION message. Also get messages that the Cruise Control is Inop and needs servicing, the Adaptive Cruise control is Inop and needs servicing, the guidelines one the Backup Camera will not display, and the steering acts strange on tight turns like the front axle may be engaged. After a short drive , I stopped the vehicle and shut it down to take care of some business after 15 lies. I restarted the Jeep and the same thing happen. Went to my next stop and shut the vehicle down after 10 miles. After vehicle rested about 1 hour got in and it fired up and all was back to normal. Today, It started vehicle up this morning and ESC Light stayed on and all other problems came back. Drove it 1 mile to the store and shut it down for 5 minutes. Came back out, started Jeep, and all problems reset and everything back to normal. Very strange. I will be getting it to dealer in next day or two. Only have 4254 miles. This Jeep spent 29 days at dealer for defective front axles. Not looking forward to having to rent another minivan for a lengthy period again.
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Re: Traction Control Light

Ref my above post, it should read that the guide lines on the backup camera will not display even though that option is selected in the settings. It should also read 15 miles, not 15 lies. Damn auto correct!
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Re: Traction Control Light

Everything is back to normal. Took Jeep to dealer day before yesterday after they scanned it the day before. According to scan, it needed a new clockspring assembly. They received it and installed it. My problems always showed up after vehicle was cold from not running for several hours. I waited overnight after I got it home. Started it up this morning and the ESC Light only illuminated during the test cycle and then went off, just like it's supposed to.

I have no idea what the clockspring assembly is. Service tech said it is somewhere in the steering wheel assembly and it is where wires from various assemblies go up into the wheel to the control buttons.
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Re: Traction Control Light

A follow-up to my ESC / Service air susp system issues. It is the exact part that Roman mentioned -- a "faulty steering angle sensor/module". The dealer had my GC for 8 days and slipped in the new part when it arrived and I was off! Dealer provided a rental car so I wasn't really put out much. Don't like the concept of having my Overland with only 5189 miles on it (still haven't had it's first oil change) sitting in the dealer for 8 days. Don't know why the part was taking over 3 weeks for you Roman, possibly since my issue was about 45 days later than yours and more parts are now in the system.
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