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2012 JGC V8 Exhaust Options

Hey all,

I am thinking of finally doing an exhaust upgrade on my 2012 V8 JGC Overland and am eyeing up two options - the Corsa or Mopar cat back. I am looking for a little bit meatier sound but not overpowering and both seem to be a good option for this from what I have read. I do have a few questions that I am hoping to get more info on:

- For the Corsa exhaust, are there any droning noises with switching to eco mode with the V8? I am extra sensitive to these oddities so if so it would probably drive me nuts

- Does adding an alternate vendor void the Maxcare warranties in any way? I certainly wouldn't want to run into issues with that down the road

- Anyone here done the Mopar upgrade that can comment on the sound and performance? I can't really find any videos about it which has me a little concerned

At face value it seems like the Mopar option would be my best bet for not creating drone and I wouldn't have to worry about warranties since it is an official part. However, I would like to know if I could get similar performance out of it vs the other options - otherwise what's the point, right?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

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Re: 2012 JGC V8 Exhaust Options

The Mopar exhaust is made by Corsa, so it's the same product.

The Corsa has been reported to be more drone free than any other cat-back system.

Installing an exhaust system won't void your warranty.
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Re: 2012 JGC V8 Exhaust Options

Technically, the Corsa voids the warranty on your stock cat-back. Realistically, your stock had zero warranty (cat-back) and the Corsa has a lifetime (ltd) warranty. However, if you bought the Mopar version and had it installed by a Chrysler Mopar dealer then the warranty (zero in this case) is not voided. This is an important distinction sometimes as the factory warranty on the stock part is not always zero.
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Re: 2012 JGC V8 Exhaust Options

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The Mopar exhaust is made by Corsa, so it's the same product.

The Corsa has been reported to be more drone free than any other cat-back system.

Installing an exhaust system won't void your warranty.
Interesting - had no idea they were both made by Corsa!

Is it literally the same equipment?
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Technically, the Corsa voids the warranty on your stock cat-back. Realistically, your stock had zero warranty (cat-back) and the Corsa has a lifetime (ltd) warranty. However, if you bought the Mopar version and had it installed by a Chrysler Mopar dealer then the warranty (zero in this case) is not voided. This is an important distinction sometimes as the factory warranty on the stock part is not always zero.
Does this hold true for people like me that have the lifetime max care warranty? I thought that was as bumper to bumper as you can get and it would include the stock exhaust?

Along similar lines, if you install a mopar aftermarket part (like the exhaust or CAI) does that get absorbed into ones existing max care plan? If not, then that would mean I would lose it regardless with the Mopar offering so might as well do Corsa (provided it won't give me other warranty claim issues with Chrysler down the line...).
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Interesting - had no idea they were both made by Corsa!

Is it literally the same equipment?
Yes. I live 10 mins from the Corsa factory and the auto biz dev guy told me it's identical except that the Mopar is made to a "tighter spec." than the Corsa version.
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Does this hold true for people like me that have the lifetime max care warranty? I thought that was as bumper to bumper as you can get and it would include the stock exhaust?...
I also have the Lifetime Maxcare extended service plan. It specifically states that "exhaust system components" are excluded, however the exhaust manifolds are listed as covered.


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...Along similar lines, if you install a mopar aftermarket part (like the exhaust or CAI) does that get absorbed into ones existing max care plan? If not, then that would mean I would lose it regardless with the Mopar offering so might as well do Corsa (provided it won't give me other warranty claim issues with Chrysler down the line...).
Keep in mind the Maxcare does not cover anything covered by the original factory warranty which is truly bumper to bumper with virtually zero exceptions. Of course, added parts are never covered unless as the warranty states its Mopar installed by a JCDR dealer. There is one other major point I failed to make earlier. Mopar Performance parts (identified with a "P" as the first digit in the part number) are sold as-is with no warranty regardless of who installs it. Guess what? The Mopar version of the Corsa has a part number of P5155931 (example '14 Overland) so it has ZERO warranty.
Your Maxcare document has a clause describing Mopar accessories as being covered basically the same way as the oem warranty does so long as it is not a "Performance" accessory. Your 3/36 warranty doesn't have the performance exlusion but it doesn't matter in this case as the Mopar part has no warranty anyway. FWIW, the Mopar CAI does not have a "P" part number so it has the Mopar regular parts 12 mo warranty, if installed by a dealer.
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I also have the Lifetime Maxcare extended service plan. It specifically states that "exhaust system components" are excluded, however the exhaust manifolds are listed as covered.
Ah interesting - thanks for the clarification. I guess this would mean it would make more sense to buy a Corsa one then since they have a limited lifetime warranty vs the one year offering from Mopar - no? Not sure if there is much to this "tighter spec"

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Keep in mind the Maxcare does not cover anything covered by the original factory warranty which is truly bumper to bumper with virtually zero exceptions. Of course, added parts are never covered unless as the warranty states its Mopar installed by a JCDR dealer. There is one other major point I failed to make earlier. Mopar Performance parts (identified with a "P" as the first digit in the part number) are sold as-is with no warranty regardless of who installs it. Guess what? The Mopar version of the Corsa has a part number of P5155931 (example '14 Overland) so it has ZERO warranty.
Your Maxcare document has a clause describing Mopar accessories as being covered basically the same way as the oem warranty does so long as it is not a "Performance" accessory. Your 3/36 warranty doesn't have the performance exlusion but it doesn't matter in this case as the Mopar part has no warranty anyway. FWIW, the Mopar CAI does not have a "P" part number so it has the Mopar regular parts 12 mo warranty, if installed by a dealer.
So would this mean that a Mopar CAI would also be covered under maxcare for life if installed by a Jeep dealer?
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Ah interesting - thanks for the clarification. I guess this would mean it would make more sense to buy a Corsa one then since they have a limited lifetime warranty vs the one year offering from Mopar - no? Not sure if there is much to this "tighter spec"

So would this mean that a Mopar CAI would also be covered under maxcare for life if installed by a Jeep dealer?
The Mopar exhaust has zero warranty, its a "P" performance part. No brained get the Corsa. The Mopar CAI is covered per the Mopar Accessories section in the Maxcare plan doc if installed by dealer since its not a "P" performance part, however, its relatively moot as filters are not covered and a CAI tube is pretty bulletproof
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The Mopar exhaust has zero warranty, its a "P" performance part. No brained get the Corsa. The Mopar CAI is covered per the Mopar Accessories section in the Maxcare plan doc if installed by dealer since its not a "P" performance part, however, its relatively moot as filters are not covered and a CAI tube is pretty bulletproof
Great - thanks for the help. Where do you typically have one of these installed - at the dealer or a local shop? Also, any idea where you can get a good deal on parts?

Finally, is the Mopar CAI the recommended route to go for anyone with Maxcare to avoid claim issues? Any noticeable performance issues vs the K&N?
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Great - thanks for the help. Where do you typically have one of these installed - at the dealer or a local shop? Also, any idea where you can get a good deal on parts?

Finally, is the Mopar CAI the recommended route to go for anyone with Maxcare to avoid claim issues? Any noticeable performance issues vs the K&N?
A dealer won't install a part you didn't buy from them. Any good performance and/or exhaust shop can do it and do it. It's a really simple install. If you are within driving distance of Cleveland, OH the Corsa factory will install it for free. They did mine.

Again, IMHO a CAI is a non-event for warranty. Filters are never covered and the remaining parts simply cannot fail. Regarding performance. The Mopar and K&N are similar design so all claims should be nearly identical. I say claims because a CAI when installed on a non-race motor without a tune (the stock ECM will adjust for any air input diffs) that has the original exhaust manifold and headers (ie still corked) and no direct outside ram air supply to offer lower temp air simply will not offer any real gains beyond awesome sound and maybe a perceived snappier throttle tip-in. I had the K&N FIPK CAI on my '02 JGC Ltd 4.7HO for 197k miles over 11 years and loved it. Really lets out a wail WOT. Your mpg will suffer as you will have a heavier foot due to the cool WOT sound.
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