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Old 08-09-2013, 11:04 AM
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I agree, if you have the cash, RR Sport rocks.

I may buy one next year and give the wife the GC. She loves it. I like it, but sooooo disappointed in how poorly Jeep put the power to the wheels.
You should test drive a 2014...
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:13 AM
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You should test drive a 2014...
I test drove a 2014, they still murdered the power. So slow. Once you get it's fat ass moving, it's not too bad, but that throttle lag is brutal. Nice car, but in the end, the non-SRT is designed for soccer moms and weekend warriors so I can't complain too much when I didn't pony up for the SRT. I'll pull my hat low as the Prius beats me to the next light, but at least it looks good.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:15 AM
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A prius beating a 2014 V8 not going to happen unless you have short legs and can't mash the gas to the floor. You sure you drove a Hemi model. The 2014 Grand Cherokee is not the fastest vehicle in the world but it's definitely not slow especially for a 4x4

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Old 08-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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A prius beating a 2014 V8 not going to happen unless you have short legs and can't mash the gas to the floor. You sure you drove a Hemi model. The 2014 Grand Cherokee is not the fastest vehicle in the world but it's definitely not slow especially for a 4x4

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I modified and sold modified Wranglers for the last ten years. I'm pretty sure I know a 3.6L from a 5.7L. Not to mention the big 5.7 on the engine cowl. BTW, Prius will whoop ya for 80 ft because they're running electric, which has no torque curve. Ever seen a remote control car take off? Same concept. 0-100% torque instantly, unlike a gas engine. GC will destroy it eventually, again, once you get past all the lame fuel saving, traction control bullshit they program into the GC's launch.
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I modified and sold modified Wranglers for the last ten years. I'm pretty sure I know a 3.6L from a 5.7L. Not to mention the big 5.7 on the engine cowl. BTW, Prius will whoop ya for 80 ft because they're running electric, which has no torque curve. Ever seen a remote control car take off? Same concept. 0-100% torque instantly, unlike a gas engine. GC will destroy it eventually, again, once you get past all the lame fuel saving, traction control bullshit they program into the GC's launch.
Noted lol if I want to race a prius make sure to power break seriously though I live in the land of prius in San Francisco have many friends with them I seriously don't think they would beat me to the next light. I guess a prius is going to smoke most cars for 25 feet why would anyone want to race a prius to anywhere.

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Re: 2014 V8 is weak?

I have to agree that the delay between putting the hammer down and the expected results is a little more pronounced, but not un-typical of other drive by wire vehicles I've owned.

I think it is a combination of gas pedal --> ECU --> engine delay as well as the traction control, especially when going from off throttle/braking to full throttle; when going from light throttle to full hammer down the response is much more instantaneous on my truck anyway.

Cautiously optimistic there might be a module update to help a little, I have the lifetime warranty so going the aftermarket tune option is not really viable.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:08 PM
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Re: 2014 V8 is weak?

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I'll pull my hat low as the Prius beats me to the next light, but at least it looks good.
Lol at a Prius being faster. Are the older 5.7's really that slow? I'm sure 22" wheels only make it worse accelerating from a stop. Car and driver tested the 2012 Prius Plug-in hybrid and it took 11.2 seconds to hit 60mph! Even the regular Prius took over 10 seconds. Does it jump off the line for a few seconds and then die out and crawl?

I have access to a 2013 chevy volt for work which also runs on battery for the first 40-50 miles and it's slow and doesn't get 100% torque off the line that's for sure...thankfully sport mode helps because from a stop in normal mode it's slooow. We do have a Prius also so maybe i'll take that for a spin to compare which one is worse, lol.The Tesla is 100% electric which gets 100% of the torque instantly and that's quick!

The only time i have lag with my 5.7 is when Eco is on. Other then that throttle response is great in normal mode and even better in sport mode. I don't feel it's slow for a 5000lbs SUV.
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Re: 2014 V8 is weak?

I have a 2013 overland with the Hemi and i love it. I think it has plenty of power and always kicked you in the ass when you get on it. Granted its nowhere near as fast as my challenger with the same engine but for a 500lb+ truck its plenty quick. A tune, cold air intake and catback exhaust should also help put to sleep any gripes you have about it being to slow as they can increase hp up to 30 combined.
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I have a 2013 overland with the Hemi and i love it. I think it has plenty of power and always kicked you in the ass when you get on it. Granted its nowhere near as fast as my challenger with the same engine but for a 500lb+ truck its plenty quick. A tune, cold air intake and catback exhaust should also help put to sleep any gripes you have about it being to slow as they can increase hp up to 30 combined.
The aFe CAI I installed this week helps a bit, def took the sewing machine sound off of the motor. After the exhaust overhaul it'll certainly sound fast, lol. Once moving, I think they move well, just wish I could get its fat butt off zero faster. May have to drop a supercharger in it, but that's a fight for me and my wife to have... I think they're about $12k ?
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Re: 2014 V8 is weak?

I test drove a v8 overland on Wednesday. Admittedly, I didn't really hammer it, but I thought it was pretty strong overall. I would say I was even a little surprised how quick it felt on the low end. Just for reference, I drive a 2013 Chevy Tahoe at work which has a Vortec 5.3L V8 with 320 hp and 335 lb-ft of torque. Just my thoughts.
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I test drove a v8 overland on Wednesday. Admittedly, I didn't really hammer it, but I thought it was pretty strong overall. I would say I was even a little surprised how quick it felt on the low end. Just for reference, I drive a 2013 Chevy Tahoe at work which has a Vortec 5.3L V8 with 320 hp and 335 lb-ft of torque. Just my thoughts.
That Tahoe weighs a LOT more than a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and that engine has less HP and Torque than the Hemi V8. In other words... that thing is a slug.

If that is your baseline, then I'm not surprised the WK2 felt quick to you.
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That Tahoe weighs a LOT more than a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and that engine has less HP and Torque than the Hemi V8. In other words... that thing is a slug.

If that is your baseline, then I'm not surprised the WK2 felt quick to you.
LOL! Probably a very good point.
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