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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

The Hemi is awesome the short trip city mileage is low I'm getting about 8-11 city and 14 overall on 89 octane. I am running 265 65 18 Blizzaks so Im sure with some mileage tires that will improve some but still pretty bad on the highway trip home about 68 mi from the dealer I was at 15.8 according to the computer and that was including some modest leg streching.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

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How come no one knows the claimed factory 0-60 times on the 6 and 8, even 1/4 mile times?
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What are the official 0-60 times for the V6 and the Hemi?

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~8.9 for V-6
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http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php?t=12687

That came straight from the horses mouth. Magazines have quoted a 0-60 time for the 3.6L at around 8.4 sec. I tend to believe the engineers more than a magazine as the magazines try out a number of ways to launch the truck/car to get the fastest times while the manufacturer probably just put the pedal to the floor and record the times without all of the other crap.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

I know for a fact that the V8 is only faster on the track. I never intend to go there and drive my SUV on it even if I did go there to race. In traffic, where I do drive, when I drive the V6, I'm faster getting around town then my buddy who has the V8, and when I drive his V8, I'm faster than he is in my V6. Because we all know that driving fast in traffic has very little to do with HP or torque. It's about making the right decisions and which lane to be in. It's knowing 47 mph in the 45 mph zone through town will ensure you catch all the lights green all the way through, and if you come to that one intersection where traffic is to the bridge, then turn left and go the back way, you'll save 10 minutes.
We also did a pretty good side by side comparison, going back and fourth to the shop, exact same driver and driving style. V6 gets driven like it's stolen. With no thought to fuel consumption, and we average 18.5-19 mpgs consistantly. The V8 however, if we drive it with the exact same driving style, then we both average around 13-14 mpgs. If we drive it "carefully" then we can get about 16. So it works out to about $85.00 to fill the V6 every 10 days, and about $98.00 every 7 days for the V8. Plus he's about to have to do his spark plugs for the first time, Dealer quoted $375.00 for that.
If the V8 was significantly more powerful than the V6, I would have given it more consideration. The problem I saw is that the V8u is still slow. A Toyota Rav 4 V6 is faster then the GC V8! atleast in the V6 I don't feel I have anything to prove. I can't imagine having that big V8 thunder being pulled by a Toyota Venza V6 station wagon!
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

There's already so much written on this issue so I'll be brief. I drive fast with the V6 and have never felt insufficient power. Note that I do not live in mountains and do not tow heavy loads. When I want power I use the full throttle, not part of it.

In Auto mode, the shift points aren't always perfect but that is due to transmission programming chosen for fuel economy; Chrysler has the same CAFE rules as other manufacturers and cannot ignore them. You give the throttle a tip or use Sport mode and adequate power is there. The early 2011 TSBs fixed the V6 lugging problem for me.

Of course I know the Hemi has more on tap, sounds better on WOT, etc. But I can pass a few more gas pumps. No regrets.

Here's the thing that almost made me buy the V8 anyway: rear ELSD. But so far with mild winters and modest snowfalls I haven't missed it.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

If you're not concerned about the extra expenses of the V8, get it. You won't be disappointed.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

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Of course I know the Hemi has more on tap, sounds better on WOT, etc. But I can pass a few more gas pumps. No regrets.

Here's the thing that almost made me buy the V8 anyway: rear ELSD. But so far with mild winters and modest snowfalls I haven't missed it.
You can get a v6 with ELSD just has to be a limited and up with ORA2 package.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:17 AM
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

Get the V8 HEMI! The motor is smooth and effortless!!!
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

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You can get a v6 with ELSD just has to be a limited and up with ORA2 package.
No you can't. No V6 in 2011 or 2012 has a rear ELSD option.
You don't need it anyway... unless you plan on some serious offroad... for regular winter driving even in big snow falls the QTII is more than enough.
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No you can't. No V6 in 2011 or 2012 has a rear ELSD option.
You don't need it anyway... unless you plan on some serious offroad... for regular winter driving even in big snow falls the QTII is more than enough.
My 2011 V6 4x4 Overland has it.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

Sorry, it does not. The rear ELSD is only available on the V8 through QDII. The V6 has QTII and not QDII. There is no rear ELSD on the V6.
If you do not believe me, search the chat with engineers thread and you will see that there is no ELSD and there reason for not offering it on the V6.

ColdCase explains it quite well in this thread;
Can someone explain QTII a little better to me?
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

Only because we also use the jeep in commuting, We went with the v6. as per the trip computer Im getting 19.5 mpg,avg. mixed highway and back roads. I find enough power to do what I need to do. Its not a bad pick. But would love the power of the 8 cyl.
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Re: 3.6 or 5.7

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Sorry, it does not. The rear ELSD is only available on the V8 through QDII. The V6 has QTII and not QDII. There is no rear ELSD on the V6.
If you do not believe me, search the chat with engineers thread and you will see that there is no ELSD and there reason for not offering it on the V6.

ColdCase explains it quite well in this thread;
Can someone explain QTII a little better to me?
I seeee different transfer cases that SUCKS. That was the reason i was going to get the ORA2 that's out now ! I guess ill look on the positive side ill save some $$$.
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