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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

V8, no brainer, but the gear ratios suck, it may as well have a 3 speed gearbox
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:17 AM
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

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If you don't HAVE to buy a vehicle in the next two years, rumors say both the JGC and the Q5 are getting 3.0TDI engines in 2013/2014 model years. That'll increase towing capacity in the Jeep (maybe not for the Q5, it may have structural limitations that limit it like the Wrangler is limited). 8 speed transmissions are coming to the Jeeps in that time frame, too, which is expected to help with the V6 as well.

I lust after a 2011/2012 Jeep with a Hemi, but feeding my current V8 is getting a bit old (I see 14 city and up to 24 highway in it, on par with the new Hemi), and the new Hemi apparently needs premium on top of it. I would go out and buy one today if they had the diesel in it.

The 3.0TDI in the Q7 is an awesome monster, but Q7 is too big/expensive for me. In the lighter Q5, it is going to be a really nice combo. The Q5 was pretty nice, but I felt like I could park it in the back of my 2001 GC if I folded down the seats. No way the big cooler would fit in the back and leave any room for gear, whereas it fits fine in my current Jeep. It didn't have that much more space than my A3, and I've often felt space constrained with that car. I really, REALLY wanted a Q5 until I took a close look at it and realized it wouldn't meet my needs.

If the Q5 does meet your needs, you should get prepaid service. Price on it can be negotiated, but it is worthwhile even at MSRP. The four year plan for my A3 was only a few hundred bucks, and then you just don't have to worry about buying anything but tires for the first four years/45k miles. No matter which you buy, an extended warranty is also a great idea. Both have a ton of gadgets, and gadgets are expensive to fix.

The new hemi does not need premium fuel. 89 is recommended and 87 is acceptable according to the manual.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

I drove both the Pentastar and the Hemi over the last few weeks. The Pentastar brought back memories of my '93 and '97 GC's which had whatever the 6 cyl. was back then. I know it's a big difference in engines but sure felt slow and underpowered to me.

I'm coming from an Acura RDX which is pretty zippy - I knew I wouldn't be happy taking that kind of acceleration hit with the Pentastar so I chose a Hemi. I do have visions of pulling my boat to N. Michigan and there is no way the V6 could have handled that distance or load (@4000lbs). The RDX also requires premium and I get about 20MPG out of it so in the end I think I'm about even with the Hemi given 87/89 octane and a hit for city mpg.

I also looked at the Q5, nice ride but not enough room with a decent road trip with a couple of kids + dog. My head has also been filled with horror stories on maintenance costs by several past Audi owners.

I really want a diesel GC but didn't want to wait for the rumor to materialize - maybe a quick trade in down the road.
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:42 AM
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

Every generation Grand has had a killer V8 option and a very useful (but underpowered for the vehicle) six cylinder available.

Go for the V8. It shouldn't even be a question if you value performance.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

I don't tow anything major and spend a lot of time around town and on the highway. The V6 is a little slow off the line due to the high drive ratio vs. first gear but once it's rolling it has no issues merging or passing, far from underpowered. Yes, the Hemi is faster (and sounds a lot better) but still far from being fast. I just couldn't bring myself to spend an extra $1500 for a 360hp engine that need 89 octane to make that number, goes through 16 spark plugs every 30k miles, gets worse mileage, and isn't any faster than a 270hp V6 4Runner or Pathfinder. Granted if I ever towed anything substantial, like a horse trailer I would probably have opted for the extra torque the V8 affords, but then also I probably have opted for something with a longer wheelbase to increase stability.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

Personally I had an 06 Hemi and absolutely loved it. The raw power it had was sickening. For my 11 GC I chose the 6cyl. I was surprised on how much I liked it. Yea yea yea the 8 is better and blah blah blah..and if anyone on here would like to contribute to my bill fund than I will gladly get the 8 next time....hahaha...

Honestly it made more sense for me to get the 6...I have not one bad thing to say about it....when I get on it while on the highway it moves with ease...is it an 8 cyl, no, but it serves its purpose.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

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Yes, If you wake up the Hemi, you can hear it nicely in the Cabin... Around town tho, they are both very mellow.
The Hemi is generally much quieter for accelerating and passing, the V6 goes from very poor acceleration to a severe downshift accompanied by high RPMs and a great deal of noise in situations where the Hemi would just quietly provide plenty of power. The Hemi is smoother and just doesn't have to work as hard.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

Had to face similar decision few weeks ago. I went with Hemi- probably more emotional decision in my case. Both are not street racers. V6 was smooth enough and would probably cover most of average daily needs unless you have to tow. Hemi felt a little bit quicker and put less effort. Of course soundtrack that comes with it is just music to my ears. Still wouldn't recommend to race from traffic light nor you should unless it's SRT8. Audi vs. Jeep? Let's admit- you get what you pay for. It is what you value more, your own scale. JGC gets more value overall minus reliability, small little issues here and there, rattles and warning lights sometimes and poor service department. I was ready for it and went with JGC Hemi and happy and absolutely live it.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

HI,anyone have a idea when the wk2 will come out with 6 speed a/t on the hemi overland ,in the process off purchasing the 5 speed overland ,should i wait.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

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HI,anyone have a idea when the wk2 will come out with 6 speed a/t on the hemi overland ,in the process off purchasing the 5 speed overland ,should i wait.
The 6-speed tranny comes standard on 2012 GCs with Hemis, now available.

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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

lol @ this whole thread.

The V6 is more than fine. Never felt under powered with it in both highway and city driving. The 5.7L is a waste of money unless your towing..... heavy loads.... a lot. The 5.7L isn't quick as some may think when the new Ford Edge and leave them in the dust.
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Re: Accleration in the v8 vs v6

Agreed that the v6 is a fine engine overall. Having owned both engines, I disagree that the v8 is a complete waste of money if you are not towing. The hemi isn't a speed demon, but the gain in torque and ease in acceleration is very satisfying in everyday driving. In my opinion, a 2k price for the hemi is more than reasonable. This topic never dies!
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