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Old 04-25-2012, 09:02 PM
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I am disappointed in the power of my V8. So if you like to step on the gas every so often I would for sure get the V8. I wish the diesel was offered in the U.S. I am getting 16 mpg out of my v8 and with the warmer weather coming it keeps getting better. From what i have read the v6 is getting around 18 or 19 mpg which in my opinion is not that much of a difference.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:09 PM
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

Based on the EPA estimates, if you're getting 16 out of the 5.7L then you'd be getting over 20 in the 3.6L. That might not sound like a lot but it's actually 27%, which is huge.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:11 PM
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

got 25.6mpg today on a 200 mile trip with an avg speed of 65-70mph...a litle less from my best of just over 26mpg. the best I ever got with the HEMI (same route) was just over 21mpg.

I hit 10k miles today with our V6 and between being broken in and warmer weather, i never get less then 17-18mpg with 100% city.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

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Based on the EPA estimates, if you're getting 16 out of the 5.7L then you'd be getting over 20 in the 3.6L. That might not sound like a lot but it's actually 27%, which is huge.
Its 4 mpg. If you drive 12000 miles a year, and gas is $4, that's $2,400 in gas for the V6 or $3,000 for the V8. Another way to look at it is $50 extra car payment for the V8. Deal.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:30 PM
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I have driven both for extended periods and the difference is much more then 2mpg.

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I've now owned both. For me the difference has been 2.5-3mpg. 15.4 with the Hemi, 18-18.5 with the Pentastar.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:38 PM
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I've now owned both. For me the difference has been 2.5-3mpg. 15.4 with the Hemi, 18-18.5 with the Pentastar.
that's about right...I saw 3+ difference with city and 4-5 at hwy considering all things equal.

Interesting stuff...straight from the Dept. of Energy.gov site
Annual cost at 15k miles/yr
V6 - $3050
V8 - $4,000

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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

The V8 is hands down better and the V6'rs out there just talk about gas mileage savings! I test drove a V6 limited and was impressed. I then test drove my current limited hemi and the difference was night and day. The difference in power and driver experience is much better with the Hemi. If u want a fast 0-60 suv get a Srt8 or Porsche Cayyane turbo. The 5.7 rocks out with it's c*ck out!
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:27 PM
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

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If you can afford a JGC, you can afford the extra 20.00 bucks a week to fill it.. That statement is one of most absurd excuses I have ever heard.. Typically from a guy who bought a V6 off the lot....
LMAO. Thats just a profoundly absurd statement. $20 a week is $80 a month. Thats not an insignificant amount of money...not to anyone smart regardless of how much money somebody makes. Its not a question of being able to afford it...I pay for a lot of luxury items that cost more than $80 a month I don't really need. $250 a month for cable, I have XM and Sirius in cars...thats nearly $50 a month right there. Its a question of getting benefit out of what one is spending. I get enjoyment out of what I pay for, and things I don't want...I don't pay for. Some things I would like...I choose not to pay for because the cost/benefit comparison doesn't work out to me. Not to mention thats $20 a week on top of what is already a $240 per month fuel expense for us with the Jeep. That would bring it to $320 a month just for gas, when I'm also paying $240 a month to fuel the Lexus. Just not interested. If gas was still $1.50 a gallon...then sure.

The thrill of having a "V8" and marginally better power in a big, slow SUV just is not worth $80 more a month to me. $10 more a month, maybe. I don't tow, it gets driven around town and on road trips. I'd rather drive my V6 Jeep out to one more nice dinner with my wife every month.

On top of that, with gas prices and the economy being so volatile right now, I see the potential for that cost to rise...and for the desirability of my Jeep as a pre-owned vehicle to diminish...and for those issues to be compounded with the V8. Since like I said, I am perfectly happy with the V6...why would I pay $80 a month more, and open myself up to even greater costs for something I don't want?!? Because you like the V8? Why do I care what you like? I've had V8s...and they're great. With $4 a gallon gas though its just not worth it to me, sorry.

If you like the V8...great...enjoy it...but this idea that V6 owners just "couldn't afford the V8" is asinine. I can afford to buy anything I want, whenever I want. Being that I'm a smart, businessminded consumer however I don't just buy whatever I want without considering the cost vs benefit. People buying everything they want, whenever they want and $80 more per month for fuel be damned is what has caused this financial meltdown in the first place. We certainly don't go without, but financial restraint needs to be a part of everybody's lifestyle, whether you make $10k a year or $1M a year...theres always going to be something else to spend money on. If you spend money on everything...you'll never have anything. Its why I bought a Laredo X and not an Overland Summit. Is the Summit better? Well yeah, but the additional features weren't worth the cost for me. If I were going to allocate $80 more a month to the Jeep, I'd have gotten an Overland with the V6 instead of another Laredo X with the V8.

I'm "some guy who bought his Jeep off the lot". Whats that supposed to mean? I'm somehow a lesser person than you because I didn't custom order my Jeep and wait 6 months for it? Just so happens what I wanted was on the lot. Its just a car...its a toy that we will enjoy for a few years, then we'll throw it away when we get bored and get something else. Why would I have wanted to wait 6 months to get some button for some option I don't even need? Thats 6 months I could have been enjoying my Jeep. Its not the "vehicle of a lifetime" for me.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I see lots of people talking about gas mileage like it is the ONLY thing they are concerned with when thinking about a new vehicle.

While I agree it is important, I do not think it is the ONLY thing to consider. In fact, based on the type and intended use for a vehicle, it might not even be near the top of the items to consider!



If I buy a high performance car, I care about just that... PERFORMANCE.

If I buy a pickup truck for hauling stuff, then HAULING ability is what I care about.

If I buy grocery getter or people hauler, than cupholders are what I want.

But if I get a vehicle that is designed to be able to do MANY DIFFERENT things and fill MANY DIFFERENT roles, then I don't look at just ONE aspect of its performance.

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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

Might buy the so called "hemi" if it was an up to date with V8. Its not.
Chrylser spent their dollars on absurd marketing campaign with "its Hemi"
as the tag line. Output per liter is disappointing even for the Srt8.
Compare to competing V8's from Chevy, Land Rover, and Ford. Changing the plugs every 36K miles in the 5.7?? WTF!

Chrysler needs to design a new V8. Aluminum block and heads, dohc design. Approx. 5l in displacement normally aspirated and a twin turbo for performance apps. They could even work on a modern hemisperical combustion chamber for the heads. Maybe invite some Ferrari engineers over to help with design and to fix some great pasta.

And its not a real hemi!
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Old 04-26-2012, 07:41 AM
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Its 4 mpg. If you drive 12000 miles a year, and gas is $4, that's $2,400 in gas for the V6 or $3,000 for the V8. Another way to look at it is $50 extra car payment for the V8. Deal.
I drive almost 20k miles so its about $90/ month. And I love the idle quality, flat torque curve and overall smoothness.
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