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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

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And you thought only v6 bashers could troll!
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:41 PM
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:12 PM
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I traded in an expedition for my overland. The Ford was fast but thirsty. My V6 Jeep is faster. The Hemi version got the same mileage as the much larger Ford.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I got average 17mpg with a FULL load, and roof Thule cargo pod going 80 average on a long (3700 mile) trip (average of with and against wind). I'm certain of this average: Not computer wishful thinking, but calculated by me with fuel use per mile. The computer reads at least 1mpg high, just like every car I've ever owned.

On the up side of the V8, I could put it in 4th and pull at 75mph going up Vail pass (10K ft+) at 75mph. I found the overall package of tranny and V8 very fun to drive in the mountains especially.

If you can live with less mileage, I'd get the V8. If you want to get probably closer to 20 average with the above parameters, go with the V6.

...As for me, I'll be waiting on the diesel to consider a trade, but I couldn't wait to get the JGC.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I too would be VERY interested in the diesel.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I actually almost didn't get the Jeep because I thought I needed an 8 speed in this day and age.. But I disagree with the above posts and think the 2012 V8 tranny is actually excellent. It is nice in manual - although you cannot hold a higher gear, but only prevent it from going higher (i.e. put it in 4, and you will get auto up to 4)... Tow/Haul is a nice option for people who don't know how to use manual mode, and auto is really smooth, and if you get on it it will pull the throttle back between shifts, saving the torque converter. 6th at 80 is about 1900 RPM, which is nice and low.

Having 5500 miles on it now, I actually like the tranny as much as the V8 itself. Very pleased. I think the package has the ability to be very reliable. I still recommended the V6 to my dad. He's 73. ; ).
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

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If you take a dyno plot of both the v6 and v8 and track HP and Torque to weight ratios given the V8 weighs 400 lbs more you see that you arent gaining much in power department. Yes you may get nicer sound and more torque but your truly not that much quicker. Especially at highway speeds. Pentastar has a nice torque curve and it makes good mid range power compared to many v6's on the market that require you to rev them to death to get any power.

I'd say its more of a preception that V6 doesnt have much power than reality. V6 gets up and goes when I kick it down a gear and push accerlator. Much faster than I need an SUV to go.

I find it truly odd that some people think performance between the two models is signficantly diffent. V8 only buys a couple thousand lbs of tow capacity. Suspect some of thats less to do with engine and more to do with larger brakes.

the 5.7 hemi is a real dog in my opinion. Look at dyno's of that motor, It spins up in lazy fashion and it only makes 40 or 50 more peak HP than v6 on a dyno typically. Yes it has clear torque advantage but its not a quck motor by any strech of the imagination. Hell my 3.7 liter Nissan v6 in my 370Z with intakes, ECU tune , headers and exhaust makes better HP than the 5.7 V8 on dyno and is close to same peak torque. LOL! Thats freaking sad. People are delusional if they think V6 is much slower. V6 gets off the line about same speed as V8 with good low end and less weight.

I mean seriously! ....if youre going to chuck awesome 25 Plus Highway MPG of V6 aside .....just buy a SRT8 and get a real V8. Stop pretending! To me poor performing V8 in the JGC is a supreme waste of money. But people do like that rumble! Somone should make a V8 rumble ap for iphone that you can run through stereo in v6 so those addicted to low frequency rumble would feel more satisfied they have "real" power that isnt boring. Would save people thousands of doallrs a year in gas and running costs associated with v8.

I guess you could hop up your $40K V8 JGC with aftermarket tune, intakes, headers, echaust but really? Who wants to spend $40K plus on Overland with V8 and then have to hop it up to get real performance? I'd be pissed if I bought crappy V8 and had to spend money to get more power from it. I

I suspect if a V6 owner put intake on their V6, put high flow exhaust system and tune on the car it would have equal 0 to 60 times of stock V8 which is truly pitiful for poor V8 owner.

And by all means dont drag race your weezy v8 Hemi JGC with a $25K standard 6000 lb Chevy Silverado truck with a 6.2 liter V8. They will stomp you with blazing 6.5 second 0 to 60. Makes me laugh when people think this V8 Hemi option buys them much more power. Again its all fantasyland which is what marketeers love!

I think V6 verses V8 ownership may be indicator of IQ as well. Who spends couple extra grand for such a poor power upgrade? ...Other than misinformed poorly educated consumers who are swayed by the HEMI marketing hype. V8 owners arent much better then lemmings headed off the cliff in my opinion. V6 is a true thiinking persons power option. And when are we getting the desiel v6? Thats the intellect's delight.

And you thought only v6 bashers could troll!
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

I just drove the new 2013 Lexus GS350 (great car by the way). They did away with the V8 model, but they have a sound unit that tunes the exhaust output to sound more like a V8 LOL.
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Re: Advice needed.. V6 or V8?

After much thought I bought a 2012 laredo x v8.. Mineral gray and black interior... With navi and all the goodies.. Very pleased and thanks for all the feedback!! Loving my new Jeep!
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After much thought I bought a 2012 laredo x v8.. Mineral gray and black interior... With navi and all the goodies.. Very pleased and thanks for all the feedback!! Loving my new Jeep!
Good choice.

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