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Old 06-20-2012, 05:18 PM
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

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Come and live/drive here in the trisate NYC metro area..you'll see how the lag is quite annoying and could be dangerous.
I'm not an agressive driver and am never in a rush, do ask my wife she will vouch for that, but when you got to go, you got to go and the delay/lag can make it a bit hairy at times.

JeepersCreepers my BMW delay is a bit longer then the Jeeps..they state it is for fuel economy only. I have to say the Jeep is better at pulling into traffic then the BMW is in automatic mode.
I'm from South Florida, I know all about fast and dangerous drivers. Fact is, if you HAVE to use all your power and can't take that delay, it's a dangerous move.

I'll concede the intersection situation. I've been in that situation, and the only thing that kept me safe from a drunk running through a red light was torque and AWD traction.

If you're stopped at a redlight light and someone is coming up behind you and not gonna be able to stop, getting out of the way is not the answer, as all it does is make a more dangerous situation for the car in front of you.
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

Relevant (to the delayed throttle response part of this discussion): http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...t-just-me.html

It quotes JD Power as saying that more consumers have been complaining about throttle tip-in recently (full press release: http://www.mediapost.com/publication...ngs.html?print)
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

If throttle response is important to you, be sure to purchase a Jeep with a Tow/Haul button.

It holds shifts longer on upshifts, and holds higher gears longer on down hills to provide engine braking.

Due to Federal regulations all companies are now calibrating their engines to get into the most economical gear as quickly as possible. They are responsible for obtaining the federally mandated corporate average fuel economy, and lugging engines are the only way to obtain it.

Normally I appreciate the additional fuel economy, but when the situation calls for it, I simply tap into a lower gear as needed.

Remember, You are a driver, and you must drive. Don't be so resistant to taking advantage of the tap shift.

Complaining to Chrysler is preaching to the choir. If they had the freedom, they would map the transmission shift points more aggressively.
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

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I'm from South Florida, I know all about fast and dangerous drivers. Fact is, if you HAVE to use all your power and can't take that delay, it's a dangerous move.

I'll concede the intersection situation. I've been in that situation, and the only thing that kept me safe from a drunk running through a red light was torque and AWD traction.

If you're stopped at a redlight light and someone is coming up behind you and not gonna be able to stop, getting out of the way is not the answer, as all it does is make a more dangerous situation for the car in front of you.
I have learned to live with it. you just have to anticipate a little earlier when pulling into traffic, and keep an eye in the rearview when at lights, intersections and such.
I was in miami last year and drove to key west..very crazy drivers down there. flew the second time..

in regards to driving with the Tow switch on, I wasn't sure if you could do that on a fulltime non towing basis. If anyone knows you can, le tme know; would love to try it out and check out the difference.
My mustang had the same issue when I got it. 465 hp and still a delay..with a 5 speed. The last tune I got for it I had them eliminate the delay. From this experiance it does make a bit of a difference.
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

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I have learned to live with it. you just have to anticipate a little earlier when pulling into traffic, and keep an eye in the rearview when at lights, intersections and such.
I was in miami last year and drove to key west..very crazy drivers down there. flew the second time..

in regards to driving with the Tow switch on, I wasn't sure if you could do that on a fulltime non towing basis. If anyone knows you can, le tme know; would love to try it out and check out the difference.
My mustang had the same issue when I got it. 465 hp and still a delay..with a 5 speed. The last tune I got for it I had them eliminate the delay. From this experiance it does make a bit of a difference.
I usually have the tow/haul on whenever I drive it. Never had a problem.
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Re: Awful shift points. Will we ever be able to do anything about it?

Simply, Pentastar needs 8 speed transmission. Look how much difference it made to 300C with 8 speed one.

I live in city and with 5 speed trans, I get Hemi like MPG.
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