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How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

How deep is safe?

I have been backing my old 2002 GC into a sandy boat ramp about up to the middle of the rear hubs without too many issues.

I think I went through above average rear seals (Hubs and Yoke). Two sets in 10 years 225K miles.

Wheels are a little bigger on this Jeep.

I always keep engine running so Exhaust does not fill up.

It may be the water 5 minutes.

Takes 4 LO to pull it out.

How will these stock 18" Limited tires do in the Sand?

Old Stock Tires on my 2002 GC Limited were good (Good Year I think). They were much more aggressive tread.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:57 AM
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Re: How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

As long as your exhaust is not plugged, you should be fine at the boat ramp. The 18" tires are better at boat ramps, as the sidewalls are more forgiving. I have a 2004 JGC Overland. I off road and tow my 20' Four Winns boat all the time. It is RARE that I need to go into 4 low. You need to remember, if you are off roading, or pulling a boat out of the water at the ramp, go SLOW. Let the engine do the work, and avoid brakes when going downhlll- let the engine compression be your friend.
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Re: How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

I am in sand. I actually have to push it in 4 lo a bit so it paddles through sand.

Also I need momentum. When boat is still floating its easy to pull. But as the boat weight kicks in it bogs down a LOT. I have to be moving at that point or I'll be stuck.

This is a private beach all sand.


Way different than a paved ramp, which is a breeze.
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Re: How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

In soft sand, any tire will do better if you air down a bit. According to the owner's manual (double check this) you should be ok in up to 20" of water.


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Re: How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

There are two concerns you have. One is water in the exhaust, which could damage exhaust components. If the engine is running, I don't think there is much to worry about here. Being at an angle also helps keep water out. The other issue is water in the intake. As long as the front end of your GC stays in water shallower than 20", I think you're OK there as well.

Edit: Updated the numbers - 20 inches is correct. Page 388 of the Oweners manual:

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/manuals/2014...manual_3rd.pdf


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Standing Water
Avoid driving in standing water deeper than 20 inches
(51 cm), and reduce speed appropriately to minimize
wave effects. Maximum speed in 20 inches (51 cm) of
water is less than 5 mph (8 km/h).
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Re: How deep in Water is Safe for 2014 (no Air Lift)

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How deep is safe?

I have been backing my old 2002 GC into a sandy boat ramp about up to the middle of the rear hubs without too many issues.

I think I went through above average rear seals (Hubs and Yoke). Two sets in 10 years 225K miles.

Wheels are a little bigger on this Jeep.

I always keep engine running so Exhaust does not fill up.

It may be the water 5 minutes.

Takes 4 LO to pull it out.

How will these stock 18" Limited tires do in the Sand?

Old Stock Tires on my 2002 GC Limited were good (Good Year I think). They were much more aggressive tread.
Seeing as you tow, I wouldn't count your seals due to water over towing. Towing is hard on driveline components.
You don't want an aggressive tread for sand. Flotation is key. An aggressive tire will dig if there is wheel spin. A more all season oriented tread pattern is better for sand.
FWIW, if you are launching in salt/ brackish water and have access to a hose, I would rinse off the parts of the Jeep that go in.
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