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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

I hate to dissagree with you man, but come on look at the cars they are using. Granted the red one was a skyline? What was the other POS? LOL. What brand was their CAI used? I will say not all intakes work, there are only a handful of brand names that i would be trusted to use/purchase.
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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

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I hate to dissagree with you man, but come on look at the cars they are using. Granted the red one was a skyline? What was the other POS? LOL. What brand was their CAI used? I will say not all intakes work, there are only a handful of brand names that i would be trusted to use/purchase.
So because the (one) car isn't up to your standards, it must be false? Not a good argument and a better one would be the quality/condition of the engines in them, not what the exterior body appears to be.

I'm not trying to say the video proves everything, but enough for me to call it 99% b.s. that they provide any benefit for us performance wise...maybe better throttle response, but again, that's negligible in my opinion for that kind of money.
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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

Got my K&N for free so I'm happy happy happy with my small gains and more throaty sound. Magnaflow 16929 cat back goes on tomorrow! Giggidy!


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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

What u are failing to understand is that many cars trucks and suvs have restrictive stock airboxes. Also once the ecm learns of new cfm fuel mixture will be adjusted. This is all without aftermarket tuning. If u would like i can send u about 100 plus before and after dynos from all the ls1 and ls6 camaros, trans ams, and vettes I have worked on.


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So because the (one) car isn't up to your standards, it must be false? Not a good argument and a better one would be the quality/condition of the engines in them, not what the exterior body appears to be.

I'm not trying to say the video proves everything, but enough for me to call it 99% b.s. that they provide any benefit for us performance wise...maybe better throttle response, but again, that's negligible in my opinion for that kind of money.
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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

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What u are failing to understand is that many cars trucks and suvs have restrictive stock airboxes. Also once the ecm learns of new cfm fuel mixture will be adjusted. This is all without aftermarket tuning. If u would like i can send u about 100 plus before and after dynos from all the ls1 and ls6 camaros, trans ams, and vettes I have worked on.
I agree with Pericles. I've been around performance vehicles for a long time (and non performance) and in the past on vehicles with speed density computer systems, CAI's do absolutely nothing. But on your new vehicles with the new style OBDII computer and MAF systems that are able to adapt to changes in air temp and velocity, it's a completely different game.

My old 1999 Cobra made no more rwhp but 8 more rwtq with just a k&n air filter on the stock intake. And on the newer 11' and up Mustang GT's the gains from a CAI are much better as they are capable of responding to more flow. Then, tuning it for the flow helps.

Also, adding more air to a system that isn't adaptable can definitely hurt things as your ECU will compensate by adding more fuel, all be it not truly knowing how much fuel to add can definitely hurt mpg and performance. But again, that's less likely to happen on newer vehicles.

In reality, that video is silly as for one, that old skyline was probably either a gen 1 MAF or speed density setup, which requires tuning any time you touch the system. And two, for your system to re-learn a new level of air velocity coming in, it takes a little more than 20 minutes on a dyno and more like 50 miles on the road.

All be it, $ per hp gain, is just mounting a CAI onto a vehicle worth it? Probably not, and you'd get more from Nitrous for not much more money ironically

And on that note, I'm going to go order my HemiFever tuner
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I agree with Pericles. I've been around performance vehicles for a long time (and non performance) and in the past on vehicles with speed density computer systems, CAI's do absolutely nothing. But on your new vehicles with the new style OBDII computer and MAF systems that are able to adapt to changes in air temp and velocity, it's a completely different game.

My old 1999 Cobra made no more rwhp but 8 more rwtq with just a k&n air filter on the stock intake. And on the newer 11' and up Mustang GT's the gains from a CAI are much better as they are capable of responding to more flow. Then, tuning it for the flow helps.

Also, adding more air to a system that isn't adaptable can definitely hurt things as your ECU will compensate by adding more fuel, all be it not truly knowing how much fuel to add can definitely hurt mpg and performance. But again, that's less likely to happen on newer vehicles.

In reality, that video is silly as for one, that old skyline was probably either a gen 1 MAF or speed density setup, which requires tuning any time you touch the system. And two, for your system to re-learn a new level of air velocity coming in, it takes a little more than 20 minutes on a dyno and more like 50 miles on the road.

All be it, $ per hp gain, is just mounting a CAI onto a vehicle worth it? Probably not, and you'd get more from Nitrous for not much more money ironically

And on that note, I'm going to go order my HemiFever tuner
That's a good point and didn't think about the obvious differences between the abilities of our systems to adapt more than the older cars. So I see how the video is a bit misleading in our case.

I'm still on the fence about them though and I'd really like to see a sealed box like the Volant 5.7 one has for the 3.6...or we'll see what Black Ops has coming out too, but that's probably strictly for the SRT guys.
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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

For what it's worth, I just put an Airaid intake on mine (along with a new exhaust) and just did a 1000 mile round trip and my EVIC was showing upwards of 23.6 mpg hauling a cargo carrier on the hitch to boot..I've never seen that much before even without the carrier. My regular commute mpg has improved by about 1 mpg over previous.
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Re: K&N CAI installed - love the deep note on throttle

Instead of buying a CAI youre probably better off just buying a KN filter for the stock air box right?
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Instead of buying a CAI youre probably better off just buying a KN filter for the stock air box right?
I have a drop-in Airaid filter in mine in the meantime, until I'm happy with buying one that's more of a true CAI. It definitely gets more airflow and I noticed a difference in throttle response, but nothing beyond that.

Up to you which is more beneficial...
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I have a drop-in Airaid filter in mine in the meantime, until I'm happy with buying one that's more of a true CAI. It definitely gets more airflow and I noticed a difference in throttle response, but nothing beyond that.

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Did u look at afe momemtum
Check that, I have the AFE drop-in filter, not the Airaid.

And I have read about the Momentum on the forums, but they only have it available for the 5.7.
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