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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

I have a 2015 limited V6 and will be purchasing the lifetime warranty. I'm guessing the mopar cai will not void warranty but will a k&n cai void any kind of warranty? I wanna get a better sound and maybe marginally better performance and gas mileage, even though the V6 can really get up and go. Sure it's not a HEMI like the Charger I have but it definitely gets the job done. Thoughts/info?


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I have a 2015 limited V6 and will be purchasing the lifetime warranty. I'm guessing the mopar cai will not void warranty but will a k&n cai void any kind of warranty? I wanna get a better sound and maybe marginally better performance and gas mileage, even though the V6 can really get up and go. Sure it's not a HEMI like the Charger I have but it definitely gets the job done. Thoughts/info?


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Do what I did. Get yourself a $20 bluetooth ODBII receiver from amazon, purchase Torque pair your phone to the BT receiver and datalog before and after. Compare you MPG and see what you get. No one is going to pay dyno time for a CAI comparison without a tune going in. NO ONE.
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Do what I did. Get yourself a $20 bluetooth ODBII receiver from amazon, purchase Torque pair your phone to the BT receiver and datalog before and after. Compare you MPG and see what you get. No one is going to pay dyno time for a CAI comparison without a tune going in. NO ONE.
That's what CAI manufacturers/resellers count on. It's fortunate we have this website as a resource to try and recruit those with dynos to help out.
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That's what CAI manufacturers/resellers count on. It's fortunate we have this website as a resource to try and recruit those with dynos to help out.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone actually did it who wasn't a biased vendor sneaking in timing?
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Wouldn't it be nice if someone actually did it who wasn't a biased vendor sneaking in timing?
Is that how the manufacturers bump up the horsepower charts? I never knew that but I guess it makes perfect sense. And yes, it would be nice if a dyno owner in here steps up and takes this very small project in.
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Is that how the manufacturers bump up the horsepower charts? I never knew that but I guess it makes perfect sense. And yes, it would be nice if a dyno owner in here steps up and takes this very small project in.
I can't prove that but there's trickery in a lot of them. It would not surprise me if someone did a dyno run in the blistering heat and humidity then did another run with their product on when it was 20 degrees cooler and low humidity. When dealing with turbos or clutch based superchargers then yea 20hp is pretty easy when swapping from a killer restrictive system.
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Do any of these void the warranty? I could careless about real or imagined HP/performance gains, but a more aggressive sound would be nice.

I have a High Altitude V8.
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Do any of these void the warranty? I could careless about real or imagined HP/performance gains, but a more aggressive sound would be nice.

I have a High Altitude V8.
I have never heard of it but all it takes is one asshole dealership. I had a P1SC SC kit on my 300c and it didn't void my warranty because I went to school with the owner of a local dealers kid and had my car serviced there
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Do any of these void the warranty? I could careless about real or imagined HP/performance gains, but a more aggressive sound would be nice.

I have a High Altitude V8.
Dealerships cannot void the warranty UNLESS the modification (in this case, the CAI) was a direct cause of the problem you are trying to get fixed.

For example, if you had a true CAI that took air from outside the engine bay and you sucked up a bunch of water because you went into a huge puddle, the dealership will void your warranty based on the CAI being responsible for doing the damage.
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Dealerships cannot void the warranty UNLESS the modification (in this case, the CAI) was a direct cause of the problem you are trying to get fixed.

For example, if you had a true CAI that took air from outside the engine bay and you sucked up a bunch of water because you went into a huge puddle, the dealership will void your warranty based on the CAI being responsible for doing the damage.
Can't the dealership just say, "Well, the CAI contributed to the problem you are having, and so, we cannot honor the repair under warranty."

Your word against the dealer. Sue them. It'll cost you more than the warranty, that's for sure.

It's a no win for the consumer. Mopar dealerships would likely want you to keep your warranty so that they will get paid from Mopar/Fiat/Diamler whoever the heck owns mopar these days, for the repair work. Most dealership work (at least according to my father-in-law who worked at a Ford dealership for better than 20 years) is warranty work. They do count on it greatly.
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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

^ This guy again. I never said that an "exhaust does nothing". It varies on the application.
I'm guessing you may sure all variables were the same in your testing too?
  • Fuel in the car fuel tank
  • External air temperature
  • Engine temperature inside the car
  • Race track surface
  • Condition of car race track surface
  • Barometric pressure
  • Humidity
  • Variances between driving styles
It's not as easy as throwing a mod on your car and driving down your local track. I can't believe I'm explaining this to someone who claims to be a "mechanic". You'll continue to argue because you don't understand and I state facts and walk away because there's nothing more to be said.
So continue...
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