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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

They removed the MAF because it's not needed. Between IAT and MAP you can get the tune just fine. This is how we do it on the supercharged and turbo SeaDoos we build. You tune the IFR table and tweak the ignition table(s) to get a nice smooth power curve. Sometimes you have to pull timing to make the curve nice.

It's perfectly normal for temps to climb on an open system like the K&N and other while at idle. It drops fast. DEI make reflective products that work great if you want to wrap the tube and box. It reduces heat soak quite a bit but honestly makes no difference unless you're staring at a IAT readout @ idle. I proved this on the 300c forums with my 300c before the P1SC kit.

My MPG went up when I put on the CAI. That and the sound are the only two things I have noticed.

As for the exhaust section of any hemi vehicle besides SRT, they completely suck and are very restrictive. The manifolds are something out of WWII and choke the hell out of the Hemi. I have not looked at the cat back on the Jeep yet but I bet it's similar to the 300 in poor bends.

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They removed the MAF because it's not needed. Between IAT and MAP you can get the tune just fine. This is how we do it on the supercharged and turbo SeaDoos we build. You tune the IFR table and tweak the ignition table(s) to get a nice smooth power curve. Sometimes you have to pull timing to make the curve nice.

It's perfectly normal for temps to climb on an open system like the K&N and other while at idle. It drops fast. DEI make reflective products that work great if you want to wrap the tube and box. It reduces heat soak quite a bit but honestly makes no difference unless you're staring at a IAT readout @ idle. I proved this on the 300c forums with my 300c before the P1SC kit.

My MPG went up when I put on the CAI. That and the sound are the only two things I have noticed.

As for the exhaust section of any hemi vehicle besides SRT, they completely suck and are very restrictive. The manifolds are something out of WWII and choke the hell out of the Hemi. I have not looked at the cat back on the Jeep yet but I bet it's similar to the 300 in poor bends.

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Perfectly said man. You hit it with a couple key points. The stock manifolds and it's while moving. I can confirm myself on the v6 this is true. At idle I'm typically 15 to 25 over ambient depending on time of the year.
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They removed the MAF because it's not needed. Between IAT and MAP you can get the tune just fine. This is how we do it on the supercharged and turbo SeaDoos we build. You tune the IFR table and tweak the ignition table(s) to get a nice smooth power curve. Sometimes you have to pull timing to make the curve nice.

It's perfectly normal for temps to climb on an open system like the K&N and other while at idle. It drops fast. DEI make reflective products that work great if you want to wrap the tube and box. It reduces heat soak quite a bit but honestly makes no difference unless you're staring at a IAT readout @ idle. I proved this on the 300c forums with my 300c before the P1SC kit.

My MPG went up when I put on the CAI. That and the sound are the only two things I have noticed.

As for the exhaust section of any hemi vehicle besides SRT, they completely suck and are very restrictive. The manifolds are something out of WWII and choke the hell out of the Hemi. I have not looked at the cat back on the Jeep yet but I bet it's similar to the 300 in poor bends.

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Perfectly said man. You hit it with a couple key points. The stock manifolds and it's while moving. I can confirm myself on the v6 this is true. At idle I'm typically 15 to 25 over ambient depending on time of the year. While I'm moving I see .5 to 2 over ambient. Again, weather dependent
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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

I chose the Mopar cold air intake because it was the only brand I could find that was CARB legal here in California.

I'm getting 1 mpg more then the stock intake and it sounds a bit more aggressive when I hit the go pedal.
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correct mate none are cold air, they only allow freer breathing and more surface area filtration.
No bash here, honestly interested: what do you consider a true CAI? My read on the K&N & Mopar ones that use a snorkle to get air coming in directly under the hood, before mixing w/underhood air, is ambient outside air.
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No bash here, honestly interested: what do you consider a true CAI? My read on the K&N & Mopar ones that use a snorkle to get air coming in directly under the hood, before mixing w/underhood air, is ambient outside air.
If you look at the CAI I built here before my car went turbo you can see(somewhat) it's 100% sealed off. The rubber is pliable and pressing right against the core support and drivers fender blocking off any unwanted engine bay heat. I've always referred to the open tops as cool air but yes once your moving it's pretty close to ambient.
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If you look at the CAI I built here before my car went turbo you can see(somewhat) it's 100% sealed off. The rubber is pliable and pressing right against the core support and drivers fender blocking off any unwanted engine bay heat. I've always referred to the open tops as cool air but yes once your moving it's pretty close to ambient.
Ahh ok. 'preciate it. Although the K&N heat shield on the CAI I got seems to go against the hood when it closes, the bottom is definitely open. That said and your definition, the OEM intake is a real CAI; I was pretty impressed when I took the thing apart.
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After reading a lot about this I decided to NOT install on my 3.6. I understand CAI makes a big difference for a Hemi, but for a 3.6 I couldn't find much information that supported it making a difference in performance.

If you do go ahead and get this, please update thread with how you like it and specifically if you notice a difference besides sound.

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My 2-cents on this question of mopar/k&n cai's -- I choose to go with the mopar vs the k&n only because of it being a mopar part...plus I like the look of the mopar over the k&n too....corny huh? I've had k&n cai on other SUV in past and my comment goes for it too. Well as for sound....very little notice from oe sound only time you notice you have a cai is when you step on gas from a stop or to pull away from traffic. And still noise is low and not that noticeable. Plus k&n goes for $267 i got the mopar for $315 at autopartsmopar thru amazon. In case anyone cares to know or possible want.
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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

So maybe I'm missing some but why is the Mopar intake for the hdmi so much less the the v6. i would figure they would be similar set ups. I assume for some reason the v6 use just more tubing. But even so, still does seem it should not cause a huge difference in price.
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So maybe I'm missing some but why is the Mopar intake for the hdmi so much less the the v6. i would figure they would be similar set ups. I assume for some reason the v6 use just more tubing. But even so, still does seem it should not cause a huge difference in price.
Correct the 3.6 intake is far longer then the hemi as the throttle body is towards the back of the intake manifold
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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

Just purchased a user Mopar intake on eBay for $125 plus shipping. At that price I couldn't pass it up. Looks fairly new, just missing the Mopar decal. Will update with it installed and driving impressions
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Re: Mopar CAI vs. K&N

Installed Mopar intake on my 2014 and had an issue in regards to the pipe connected to TB. The bracket attached to the pipe is supposed to connect to the farthest left bolt on the passenger side valve cover. It's not long enough. I simply zip tied the bracket securely out of the way. I would like it to be bolted in place. What have you guys done for this??
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